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If AWS was open source, you wouldn’t be protected from a similar incident. You’re primarily using them for servers and infrastructure.

The one thing you can count on Godot users for is that they act exactly like Arch Linux users.

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I think that’s because the software comes from a similar place. You have to fight for your freedom and it takes effort, and the people that put that effort in like to feel good about it by sharing (or showing off). It’s like gym-goers who like to show their hard-earned progress.

And then there’s the fundamental differences in core philosophy, where a lot of friction between open and closed source projects comes in. It’s warranted, but I get why it’s annoying.

Look, I might have switched to Godot if all the people recommending it weren’t so annoying about it. Effort or not, the vast majority of those people did not contribute to the software, so it wasn’t even their fight. They just adopted a weird oppression fetish into their personality and decided to make FOSS into their god.

If someone was wronged by “Big GameDev” or whatever and developed their own FOSS replacement, then good on them, I am happy to listen about it. But the large majority of these users didn’t do that, but act like they did. Just be normal, please. Being so overly annoying about it isn’t going to attract more people, existing users being annoying are going to push away potential new users.

So you want passionate people with zero marketing budget to not talk about them, and also expect people to magically know about their project, while also complaining about if they passionately talk about their project, they are annoying zealots?

You are a clown.

Just someone didn’t develop something dosen’t mean they can’t passionately share it. If you like a TV show and started talking about how much you like the show it wouldn’t rude for you to share just because you weren’t the director of the show.

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The vegans of the software world.

PS, I run Arch.

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Except AWS runs on Linux…

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If AWS decides tomorrow to pull a Unity, can you fork it and keep your business running? Or do you need to rebuild an entire deployment infrastructure?

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Running your server on someone else’s hardware isn’t the same thing as using not using open source?

AWS’s servers themselves run on an Amazon-modified flavor of Linux. I’m pretty sure this version already is a fork of CentOS or RHEL.

If you choose to use AWS, you can choose a variety of Linux flavors to run.

If you choose to leave AWS and you have to find a new hosting provider or need to procure hardware to host it yourself, that has nothing to do with the provider being open source or not. Them forking their versions of Linux really only affects Amazon internally, they’re not giving their internally used version out to everyone for use. They have Amazon’s Linux 2 which they do give away to everyone to use, but why would you use it when there’s more open versions of Linux available?

Once again, this seems mostly like people confusing using open source software and using hardware that someone else owns. Open source isn’t about who owns the hardware, that’s a private property issue. That’s more akin to setting up your business on Amazon’s lawn and then getting frustrated when Amazon isn’t mowing their lawn and your business can’t be seen from the road. Honestly, that’s what you get for setting up shop on someone else’s property where they already have their own shop.

You keep making the assumption that AWS == EC2, meanwhile it is just one of many services AWS provides.

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I’m literally not talking about the services they provide, I’m talking about the AWS servers themselves. The physical box that lives at Amazon. To boot up it has to have an operating system. That OS is a flavor of Linux. The number of people who have not understood that in this thread is downright mind boggling.

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Who cares what OS the AWS machines are running? I can’t touch it, it’s completely inaccessible for me and other clients. I can only touch the services which AWS provides. I wouldn’t know the difference if it was running windows, since the OS is completely transparent, basically a hidden implementation detail.

AWS and Azure are services, not libraries; Elasticsearch is mostly open source; and DynamoDB, well, how many people use it again?

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AWS and Azure are services

A lot of people seem really confused by this, based on the number of downvotes.

Oh no the internet runs on computers that use “Closed Source Software” to manage the packets that flow through them! This means that if I have a website that is open source, I’m actually a hypocrite? Actually I’m not sure what the point of this comic is.

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