As firms increasingly rely on artificial intelligence-driven hiring platforms, many highly qualified candidates are finding themselves on the cutting room floor.
AI hiring tools may be filtering out the best job applicants::As firms increasingly rely on artificial intelligence-driven hiring platforms, many highly qualified candidates are finding themselves on the cutting room floor.
I am on the other end of this. As an employer, job boards are now essentially useless. Worst of all, we pay per profile engaged. In order for us to verify that the profile is even tangentially a match, we have to engage, but the new algorithms are only providing poor matches. It used to be that we would pay per posting and we could engage with every profile that responded AND every profile that matched our keywords, at no extra costs (this shit costs over $10k per year).
The market is ripe for a competitor that offers services equivalent to what we had nearly twenty years ago.
Why not skip those companies and put a listing on your own company website? I feel like a big source of the issue is companies outsourcing this kind of thing to other companies. You are going to need to do some work on your own at some point.
Our default is Dice, Indeed, Facebook. Twatter, Mastodon, and our website. We’re too small and specialized for the website to work. If you know about us, chances are you know one of our people at which point it’s an “in network” referral.
EDIT: To be fair, nothing but the job boards and referrals work. Facebook, Twatter, LinkedIn, etc, are a waste of time and money.
I am a seasoned professional that has over a decade in my field with very solid experience to match. And yet, I am simply getting either no response or a decline altogether. During Covid, I interviewed for over 30 positions. Some were promising but others I declined. I’m hearing crickets right now. It’s wild.
I have the same qualifications as the descriptions and even exactly what the job is looking for and don’t hear back. Some other jobs ask for interviews with 1 or 2 similar qualifications. It’s nuts.
I had one that I fit word for word but I have an AS and not a BS. My father in law works for the company for 22 years and puts in for it under his name as an endorsement. If I get hired he gets a bonus if I stay for a year. Nothing. Not even a phone interview. So dumb. And my degree is not a technical degree.
If a company uses AI tools without thinking, it should bear the consequences. Regardless if the AI fcks up hiring processes or hands out free money to customers like air Canada did.
My experience in the past twenty years on both the looking and hiring end is that ultimately I don’t think AI changes anything.
You’ve just replaced humans in HR that have no fucking clue what to look for and relied on algorithms and key word searches to filter out the good people to just going to directly to algorithms that will do the same shit job.
Yes, we’ve seen so called “experts” telling your personality from your handwriting, or stupid personality tests… HR sure can find convoluted ways to reject random applications.
At my job, it used to be the department managers who did interviews and made hiring decisions, but then they changed it so that HR would handle all of that. Ever since then, they’ve gone and hired the absolute shittiest people you can imagine. HR has no idea how to hire people or what to look for. They even hired a sex offender to work in an area where children are likely to be present because they never bothered to do a background check.
I’m unfortunately in this world. Every application involves me scanning the job description and then trying to take key words and change up my skills section to try to match enough to catch the eye of an algorithm.
There are services that do exactly that and they work. You tell it what type of job you’re applying by to and it tailors your CV to get through the systems so you get seen.
LinkedIn used to say how many people applied to a job. Some jobs I would see said 1000s of applicants now they changed it and it says “over 100” that’s an indicator that the job market is shit now. Companies have to use something to filter that many applications.
From the perspective of the decision maker it does “work”. It rejects a % of candidates in such a way they can pretend it’s objective rather than random. Imho, just randomly selecting 100 out of 2000 for human review would actually be more fair and give better results.
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I am on the other end of this. As an employer, job boards are now essentially useless. Worst of all, we pay per profile engaged. In order for us to verify that the profile is even tangentially a match, we have to engage, but the new algorithms are only providing poor matches. It used to be that we would pay per posting and we could engage with every profile that responded AND every profile that matched our keywords, at no extra costs (this shit costs over $10k per year).
The market is ripe for a competitor that offers services equivalent to what we had nearly twenty years ago.
Why not skip those companies and put a listing on your own company website? I feel like a big source of the issue is companies outsourcing this kind of thing to other companies. You are going to need to do some work on your own at some point.
Our default is Dice, Indeed, Facebook. Twatter, Mastodon, and our website. We’re too small and specialized for the website to work. If you know about us, chances are you know one of our people at which point it’s an “in network” referral.
EDIT: To be fair, nothing but the job boards and referrals work. Facebook, Twatter, LinkedIn, etc, are a waste of time and money.
Every service is getting shittier with AI. They all suck. Hell, even autocorrect is worse.
I am a seasoned professional that has over a decade in my field with very solid experience to match. And yet, I am simply getting either no response or a decline altogether. During Covid, I interviewed for over 30 positions. Some were promising but others I declined. I’m hearing crickets right now. It’s wild.
Same. Not a single interview in the past 500 apps.
I have the same qualifications as the descriptions and even exactly what the job is looking for and don’t hear back. Some other jobs ask for interviews with 1 or 2 similar qualifications. It’s nuts.
Yeah, I will literally fit the exact description for a job, and then some, and not a fucking word. Insane. Like who the fuck are you looking for.
One job and had the exact required certifications I have - no response
I had one that I fit word for word but I have an AS and not a BS. My father in law works for the company for 22 years and puts in for it under his name as an endorsement. If I get hired he gets a bonus if I stay for a year. Nothing. Not even a phone interview. So dumb. And my degree is not a technical degree.
Not even the benefit of an interview is just weird. It doesn’t make sense.
Well I think that is the macro environment we’re in more than anything. But who knows.
If a company uses AI tools without thinking, it should bear the consequences. Regardless if the AI fcks up hiring processes or hands out free money to customers like air Canada did.
My experience in the past twenty years on both the looking and hiring end is that ultimately I don’t think AI changes anything.
You’ve just replaced humans in HR that have no fucking clue what to look for and relied on algorithms and key word searches to filter out the good people to just going to directly to algorithms that will do the same shit job.
Yes, we’ve seen so called “experts” telling your personality from your handwriting, or stupid personality tests… HR sure can find convoluted ways to reject random applications.
At my job, it used to be the department managers who did interviews and made hiring decisions, but then they changed it so that HR would handle all of that. Ever since then, they’ve gone and hired the absolute shittiest people you can imagine. HR has no idea how to hire people or what to look for. They even hired a sex offender to work in an area where children are likely to be present because they never bothered to do a background check.
I’m unfortunately in this world. Every application involves me scanning the job description and then trying to take key words and change up my skills section to try to match enough to catch the eye of an algorithm.
There are services that do exactly that and they work. You tell it what type of job you’re applying by to and it tailors your CV to get through the systems so you get seen.
Sounds like we need AI-generated resumes
You can ask chatgpt to rewrite your resume taking the job description into account.
They exist in some form or another. None of them free.
LinkedIn used to say how many people applied to a job. Some jobs I would see said 1000s of applicants now they changed it and it says “over 100” that’s an indicator that the job market is shit now. Companies have to use something to filter that many applications.
But sholdnt that product actually WORK? If its not working, then why pay for the product?
From the perspective of the decision maker it does “work”. It rejects a % of candidates in such a way they can pretend it’s objective rather than random. Imho, just randomly selecting 100 out of 2000 for human review would actually be more fair and give better results.