With an average U.S. new-vehicle selling price of just over $45,000 last month, many can’t afford to buy new — even though prices are down more than $2,000 from the peak in December of 2022, according to J.D. Power.
My current car doesn’t have a touch screen or an app, my climate controls aren’t buried three submenus deep, nothing in it is a subscription, and it doesn’t spy on me. I don’t want a new car with the way they’re making them now.
Hopefully you won’t run into the problem I had with my older car- parts availability. It’s only going to get worse as cars get older. Especially with the electronics.
The oldest car I’ve dailied was a Honda CRX that was just shy of 20 years old when I sold it. Supply was getting sparse on the ground, but I could get even some rare, single-model-year, variant-specific parts from the dealership parts counter until right around the end of my ownership.
Currently I’m driving a 17-year-old Fit and honestly, I’m not too worried. Even if I can’t get something new, it’s right about in the sweet spot for junkyard availability.
A lot of people know that the next big generation of cars is right around the corner and don’t want to spend big bucks on a gas guzzler, or even a hybrid.
There are some decent electric options available now, but if like me, you can’t afford a new vehicle, you need other people to buy them first and sell them second hand or wait for them to come off lease.
My car is currently 9 years old and I’m absolutely hoping that it lasts long enough for me to be able to buy a decent second hand electric.
My car is a basic car… it even has a standard manual… but it does have some useful features, like android auto and a reverse camera… but otherwise is a product of last decade with technology from the 1980’s
The automotive lobby is pretty intense as they shape the regulatory framework applied to all modern cars, and I don’t see it happening from a conventional carmaker, really, but I do wonder if, say, something like aptera, which can kind of attempt to skirt those regulations, will be able to breach the mass, undeserved market in the same way the gen 1 prius was maybe able to. Or, something like the toyota echo, you know, that class of new cars that we used to have 20 years ago which was supposed to appeal to younger people who weren’t as financially well off. Or, is it just the case that the middle class has totally evaporated, and so the vast majority of americans are living paycheck to paycheck, and straight up just can’t afford a car even with increasingly predatory auto loans?
The average age of my vehicles is 23.8 years. If I remove the motorcycles the average age is 36 years, the oldest is 54. Am I winning? I just don’t like new cars.
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Newer cars do last longer, especially Toyota or Hondas.
Yeah, that and new vehicles are bullshit.
My current car doesn’t have a touch screen or an app, my climate controls aren’t buried three submenus deep, nothing in it is a subscription, and it doesn’t spy on me. I don’t want a new car with the way they’re making them now.
All of this and repairability. Given enough time, I could repair everything on my car. Newer cars throw up as many barriers to that as possible.
Hopefully you won’t run into the problem I had with my older car- parts availability. It’s only going to get worse as cars get older. Especially with the electronics.
The oldest car I’ve dailied was a Honda CRX that was just shy of 20 years old when I sold it. Supply was getting sparse on the ground, but I could get even some rare, single-model-year, variant-specific parts from the dealership parts counter until right around the end of my ownership.
Currently I’m driving a 17-year-old Fit and honestly, I’m not too worried. Even if I can’t get something new, it’s right about in the sweet spot for junkyard availability.
It’s definitely a concern but Toyota Camry’s should fare pretty well on that front.
That’s an advantage of a high volume car like a Camry.
A lot of people know that the next big generation of cars is right around the corner and don’t want to spend big bucks on a gas guzzler, or even a hybrid.
There are some decent electric options available now, but if like me, you can’t afford a new vehicle, you need other people to buy them first and sell them second hand or wait for them to come off lease.
My car is currently 9 years old and I’m absolutely hoping that it lasts long enough for me to be able to buy a decent second hand electric.
My car is a basic car… it even has a standard manual… but it does have some useful features, like android auto and a reverse camera… but otherwise is a product of last decade with technology from the 1980’s
Cars should last 20 years or more imo.
The automotive lobby is pretty intense as they shape the regulatory framework applied to all modern cars, and I don’t see it happening from a conventional carmaker, really, but I do wonder if, say, something like aptera, which can kind of attempt to skirt those regulations, will be able to breach the mass, undeserved market in the same way the gen 1 prius was maybe able to. Or, something like the toyota echo, you know, that class of new cars that we used to have 20 years ago which was supposed to appeal to younger people who weren’t as financially well off. Or, is it just the case that the middle class has totally evaporated, and so the vast majority of americans are living paycheck to paycheck, and straight up just can’t afford a car even with increasingly predatory auto loans?
My car is 15 years old, my truck is 18. No plans on upgrading until they bring back buttons and get rid of touchscreens and the spy crap.
I see this as a good thing. We are a wasteful culture.
The average age of my vehicles is 23.8 years. If I remove the motorcycles the average age is 36 years, the oldest is 54. Am I winning? I just don’t like new cars.
Totally dude, they cant track of your data and sell it haha. Mine is only 13 years old, lets see how long it lasts!