It can be useful for basic coding or to answer questions like ‘Is there any way to do X thing in Javascript?’
I were talking about it with some classmates , they said the same.
There was one program I was doing on my own with Js & Html (I’m still learning) and for relying to much on GPT
without much knowledge I ended up “walking on circles” for 6 Hours without any progress.
It is good for giving some information and sometimes finding a bug, but never, never use it as if it were capable of doing everything.
It’s a tool, not a programmer.
I’ve experimented a bit with chatGPT, asking it to create some fairly simple code snippets to interact with a new API I was messing with, and it straight up confabulated methods for the API based on extant methods from similar APIs. It was all very convincing, but if there’s no way of knowing that it’s just making things up, it’s literally worse than useless.
You don’t, you get it to write both the code and the tests. And you read both of them yourself. And you run them in a debugger to verify they do what you expect.
Yeah, that’s half the work of “normal coding” but it’s also half the work. Which is a pretty awesome boost to productivity.
But where it really boosts your productivity is with APIs that you aren’t very familiar with. ChatGPT is a hell of a lot better than Google for simple “what API can I use for X” questions.
I’ve had similar experiences with it telling me to call functions of third party libs that don’t exists. When you tell it “That function X does not exist” it says “I’m sorry, your right fucking X doesn’t not exist on library A. here is another example using function Y” then function Y doesn’t exist either.
I have found it useful in a limited scope, but I have found co-pilot to be much more of a daily time saver.
ChatGPT has been helpful in being an interactive rubber duck. I used it to help myself breakdown the technical problems that I need to solve and it helps to cut down time taken to complete a difficult ticket that usually take a couple of days of work to a couple of hours.
So? Those mistakes will come up in testing, and you can easily fix them (either yourself, or ask it to do it for you, whichever is faster).
I regularly ask ChatGPT to write code against classes/functions that didn’t exist until earlier today when I wrote those APIs. Obviously the model doesn’t know those APIs… but it doesn’t matter, you can just paste the function list or whole class definitions in and now it does know they’re there and will use them.
I used it extensively to help me code my PHP for an art portfolio site. Briefly thought about using 11ty but needed to put something up quick after being laid off and I knew PHP.
For the most part it was good. It was really good at creating simple functions for me. My issue came when I asked it to build me a JS lightbox in Bootstrap. i wanted it to look a certain way so I had to edit my prompt multiple times because it would edit the code and “forget” my previous modification. Ended up using someone else’s JS code.
It was incredibly frustrating. It’s powerful, but still limited.
I don’t know how others are using chatGPT for coding, but I found I get the best results when starting small and iterate over the results few times. Like:
write a function to make a GET request;
write a function to handle this example JSON;
write a function that combines the first two;
etc etc
I use it mostly for Typescript, Bash and Clojure and results vary from good to OK (Clojure). The whole process is way faster if you use a tool like sGPT.
I always thought of chat gpt as a “companion tool” that isn’t meant to write good code by itself, but to help experienced programmers write good code (just like search engines and documentation)
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It’s like a rookie programmer or an intern at best. There has been times it has been really helpful though.
It can be useful for basic coding or to answer questions like ‘Is there any way to do X thing in Javascript?’ I were talking about it with some classmates , they said the same. There was one program I was doing on my own with Js & Html (I’m still learning) and for relying to much on GPT without much knowledge I ended up “walking on circles” for 6 Hours without any progress. It is good for giving some information and sometimes finding a bug, but never, never use it as if it were capable of doing everything. It’s a tool, not a programmer.
I’ve experimented a bit with chatGPT, asking it to create some fairly simple code snippets to interact with a new API I was messing with, and it straight up confabulated methods for the API based on extant methods from similar APIs. It was all very convincing, but if there’s no way of knowing that it’s just making things up, it’s literally worse than useless.
Except that in code, you can write unit tests and have checks that it absolutely has to get precisely correct.
If you have to write the code and tests yourself… That’s just normal coding then
You don’t, you get it to write both the code and the tests. And you read both of them yourself. And you run them in a debugger to verify they do what you expect.
Yeah, that’s half the work of “normal coding” but it’s also half the work. Which is a pretty awesome boost to productivity.
But where it really boosts your productivity is with APIs that you aren’t very familiar with. ChatGPT is a hell of a lot better than Google for simple “what API can I use for X” questions.
You might have to rewrite all of it. The code and the tests.
Hell even the structure/outline it took might not be correct.
Yeah but I don’t. That’s the whole damn point.
I really suggest you guys try it.
It’s really really bad very often.
“just good enough to be dangerous”
I’ve had similar experiences with it telling me to call functions of third party libs that don’t exists. When you tell it “That function X does not exist” it says “I’m sorry, your right fucking X doesn’t not exist on library A. here is another example using function Y” then function Y doesn’t exist either.
I have found it useful in a limited scope, but I have found co-pilot to be much more of a daily time saver.
ChatGPT has been helpful in being an interactive rubber duck. I used it to help myself breakdown the technical problems that I need to solve and it helps to cut down time taken to complete a difficult ticket that usually take a couple of days of work to a couple of hours.
So? Those mistakes will come up in testing, and you can easily fix them (either yourself, or ask it to do it for you, whichever is faster).
I regularly ask ChatGPT to write code against classes/functions that didn’t exist until earlier today when I wrote those APIs. Obviously the model doesn’t know those APIs… but it doesn’t matter, you can just paste the function list or whole class definitions in and now it does know they’re there and will use them.
I used it extensively to help me code my PHP for an art portfolio site. Briefly thought about using 11ty but needed to put something up quick after being laid off and I knew PHP.
For the most part it was good. It was really good at creating simple functions for me. My issue came when I asked it to build me a JS lightbox in Bootstrap. i wanted it to look a certain way so I had to edit my prompt multiple times because it would edit the code and “forget” my previous modification. Ended up using someone else’s JS code.
It was incredibly frustrating. It’s powerful, but still limited.
I don’t know how others are using chatGPT for coding, but I found I get the best results when starting small and iterate over the results few times. Like:
I use it mostly for Typescript, Bash and Clojure and results vary from good to OK (Clojure). The whole process is way faster if you use a tool like sGPT.
I always thought of chat gpt as a “companion tool” that isn’t meant to write good code by itself, but to help experienced programmers write good code (just like search engines and documentation)
I thought it was terrible. Is it worse than that?