Celebrities such as James Dean can be brought back to life thanks to artificial intelligence, but it is raising troubling questions about what rights any of us have after we die.
[James] Dean has been cast as the star in a new, upcoming movie called Back to Eden.
I tend to think this will play out as a tech demo if it happens. At least initially. Then we’ll probably have the same split people have over all the other AI art - some people will love it for cheap content, others will feel it’s completely “fake” (whatever they mean by that), and some will pay extra for “human made” stuff. Similar to furniture and other mass produced vs hand made …
Come on thats crazy, why should they make new content with dead people? Should we bring back Marilyn Monroe? would it be enjoyable to watch movies or even a Ads of dead people, that are made by AI?
Leave the dead where he is, its not a good idea to use dead actors/stars. Yes they had a success back in their era, but now its a new era, and we need something new not old.
As for the rights, I believe they should ban any form of AI related in movies etc., it may be just the beginning.
I figured this was coming some day. Do no one remember when Budweiser made that commercial using John Wayne?
That was the day I invasion that movies could be made with dead stars. Imagine a world where you could make a Grown Ups movie and actually have Chris Farley in the film as it was attended. Or bring back John Candy.
Ethical it probably wrong but growing up I thought of this many times and wonder what it would be like.
And the technology is almost there, almost prefected to a point that say in 10 years if stay the course you won’t need to hire movie actors in the first place.
So from the perspective from the actors I would be totally against this. But as a fan of movies makes me excited.
But it isn’t bringing those people back. It’s bringing approximations of them back. AI John Candy won’t make the comedic decisions and acting choices of the real John Candy. What you love is their talent, not their physical appearance and voice.
I disagree I believe we can bring those people to life on film. Take Chris Farley for example. You take all the films and the years on Saturday Night Live. Combine that with probably 100’s of hours if not more of interviews and behind the scene footage.
Then take everything every written by him. There is apparently 90% of his voice for the original Shrek movie out there. Add that too.
Put it all into an algorithm with AI and you could probably get pretty damn close short of having the real life person.
Watch and see if they decide to push forward with this technology (and seems rhey do) we could see tons of long dead actors come back to life in new movies and film.
Maybe I’m too optimistic, but I get the feeling that AI necromancy will be the next 3D. It’ll be a fad for a few years, and then we’ll wonder where “look kids, it’s [dead/old actor]!” went. Maybe AI will find a useful place in film, maybe it won’t, but I doubt it will be one of the main draws for very long.
The part that’s interesting to me is for characters more than actors - but as someone else said - the AI also needs to emulate their style and such for it to be a compelling “performance”. That said, I believe it’ll be possible if there’s enough pre-existing content to train on. GPT already can create written content “in the style of” well enough to be amazing to most average people.
What’s interesting is how much these will be used followed. I’m thinking to many of the franchises - like Star Trek - where they’ve re-cast the characters, but current writing is so… let’s say different… that it still doesn’t’ really feel like the character. I’m not attached to Shatner - I don’t watch shows because he’s in them. I do like his portrayal of Kirk in the TV show and movies. But there’s the current Actors (like when Chris Pine did his movies) don’t like to “do an impression”. Pine can and a good one - there’s a SNL skit where he actually does a Shatner impression, and it was very on for the character IMO.
Are the current actors right? IDK - we don’t usually get any sort of A/B testing for the wide public. That said - given the fan backlash on the newer franchise productions - there’s a viewership who presumably would like a full recreation. Ahhh, but the other critique would be - it’s not just the current actors, heck, many are excellent - it’s the writing. I’d argue that’s (like I said above) easier to do with current AI - if the producers and studios let an AI do an actual “in the style of” script.
What’s my point? Hmmm, I’m actually interested in more affordable creation of new content in franchises that I liked, to the extent it actually fits with the existing content. I think we need to separate the characters from the actors - much like animated characters have been.
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I tend to think this will play out as a tech demo if it happens. At least initially. Then we’ll probably have the same split people have over all the other AI art - some people will love it for cheap content, others will feel it’s completely “fake” (whatever they mean by that), and some will pay extra for “human made” stuff. Similar to furniture and other mass produced vs hand made …
Come on thats crazy, why should they make new content with dead people? Should we bring back Marilyn Monroe? would it be enjoyable to watch movies or even a Ads of dead people, that are made by AI? Leave the dead where he is, its not a good idea to use dead actors/stars. Yes they had a success back in their era, but now its a new era, and we need something new not old. As for the rights, I believe they should ban any form of AI related in movies etc., it may be just the beginning.
I figured this was coming some day. Do no one remember when Budweiser made that commercial using John Wayne?
That was the day I invasion that movies could be made with dead stars. Imagine a world where you could make a Grown Ups movie and actually have Chris Farley in the film as it was attended. Or bring back John Candy.
Ethical it probably wrong but growing up I thought of this many times and wonder what it would be like.
And the technology is almost there, almost prefected to a point that say in 10 years if stay the course you won’t need to hire movie actors in the first place.
So from the perspective from the actors I would be totally against this. But as a fan of movies makes me excited.
But it isn’t bringing those people back. It’s bringing approximations of them back. AI John Candy won’t make the comedic decisions and acting choices of the real John Candy. What you love is their talent, not their physical appearance and voice.
I disagree I believe we can bring those people to life on film. Take Chris Farley for example. You take all the films and the years on Saturday Night Live. Combine that with probably 100’s of hours if not more of interviews and behind the scene footage. Then take everything every written by him. There is apparently 90% of his voice for the original Shrek movie out there. Add that too.
Put it all into an algorithm with AI and you could probably get pretty damn close short of having the real life person.
Watch and see if they decide to push forward with this technology (and seems rhey do) we could see tons of long dead actors come back to life in new movies and film.
So you’re saying this AI knows comedy like Chris Farley knew comedy? Because I haven’t even seen an AI that can tell a good joke yet.
Maybe I’m too optimistic, but I get the feeling that AI necromancy will be the next 3D. It’ll be a fad for a few years, and then we’ll wonder where “look kids, it’s [dead/old actor]!” went. Maybe AI will find a useful place in film, maybe it won’t, but I doubt it will be one of the main draws for very long.
The part that’s interesting to me is for characters more than actors - but as someone else said - the AI also needs to emulate their style and such for it to be a compelling “performance”. That said, I believe it’ll be possible if there’s enough pre-existing content to train on. GPT already can create written content “in the style of” well enough to be amazing to most average people.
What’s interesting is how much these will be used followed. I’m thinking to many of the franchises - like Star Trek - where they’ve re-cast the characters, but current writing is so… let’s say different… that it still doesn’t’ really feel like the character. I’m not attached to Shatner - I don’t watch shows because he’s in them. I do like his portrayal of Kirk in the TV show and movies. But there’s the current Actors (like when Chris Pine did his movies) don’t like to “do an impression”. Pine can and a good one - there’s a SNL skit where he actually does a Shatner impression, and it was very on for the character IMO.
Are the current actors right? IDK - we don’t usually get any sort of A/B testing for the wide public. That said - given the fan backlash on the newer franchise productions - there’s a viewership who presumably would like a full recreation. Ahhh, but the other critique would be - it’s not just the current actors, heck, many are excellent - it’s the writing. I’d argue that’s (like I said above) easier to do with current AI - if the producers and studios let an AI do an actual “in the style of” script.
What’s my point? Hmmm, I’m actually interested in more affordable creation of new content in franchises that I liked, to the extent it actually fits with the existing content. I think we need to separate the characters from the actors - much like animated characters have been.