It’s OK. Ordinary people will have no trouble at all making sure they use a different vehicle every time they drive their kid to college or collect an elderly relative for the holidays. This will only inconvenience serious criminals.
I would like to propose a toast to the end of the war on drugs, thanks to this technology which will surely be decisive in convincing people not to want drugs. Once we’ve dealt with all these pesky low level dealers the cartels will pack it all in and give up the chance of huge profits.
Kicking the same can down the road. Incredibly depressing and dumb. Stop voting for these idiots and join the likes of Portugal by legalising drugs and treating addiction as a health issue.
Cell phone is without question, but the stories I’m hearing about ring cameras and other house cameras…
I have just one driveway camera hooked up to home assistant. The amount of data I could pull on my neighborhood is nuts I don’t want to know what Amazon and correlate
Exactly. This is why this is scaring me. The police are vacuuming up data on everyone and who knows who else they’ll go after, especially if the wrong person gets into power. Even on the state level. I sure hope DeSantis’ Florida doesn’t have this ability.
I’m less concerned about that if its purely public data. If a police officer sat in a helicopter looking for drivers driving erratically, then notified a trooper on the ground to check on the car, and perform a field sobriety test if there is cause to do so I think that would fall within the confines of the law, even though thousands of cars could have been in their field of view and considered for potential DUI.
I am of the opinion that if the data is not either directly in public view, or the user can opt out of persisting it and it is available to the general public, even if for a fee, then its fine to use the data. I think any kind of AI algorithm’s suggestions on its own should not be considered probable cause, you can use it to narrow down suspects, but you need actual evidence for a warrant or arrest.
I think the issue I have with this situation is collecting and storing such a vast amount of travel data on individuals without their consent. If leaked, that data could be used to track down victims of stalking and abuse, or political dissidents.
“And that’s why we, the benevolent and peaceful police, need to track all your movements at all hours of the day. For the children. You don’t want to be anti-children do you? Skynet told us where you live.”
Unexplainable results should never be probable cause because you can’t determine that the decisions were not made using protected traits either directly or inferred.
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It’s OK. Ordinary people will have no trouble at all making sure they use a different vehicle every time they drive their kid to college or collect an elderly relative for the holidays. This will only inconvenience serious criminals.
I would like to propose a toast to the end of the war on drugs, thanks to this technology which will surely be decisive in convincing people not to want drugs. Once we’ve dealt with all these pesky low level dealers the cartels will pack it all in and give up the chance of huge profits.
Kicking the same can down the road. Incredibly depressing and dumb. Stop voting for these idiots and join the likes of Portugal by legalising drugs and treating addiction as a health issue.
We be slippin’ into black mirror world slowly.
Slipping?!? Actively sprinting towards several black mirror episodes.
Just rewatched the robot dogs episode…
I believe the problem is that agencies have been collecting all this data, they just have no way to sift through it all the data.
I see the route forward where you have no privacy outside your home.
your cellphone has entered the chat
Not to mention most people and their grandma have standalone Alexa or Google devices always listening.
Cell phone is without question, but the stories I’m hearing about ring cameras and other house cameras…
I have just one driveway camera hooked up to home assistant. The amount of data I could pull on my neighborhood is nuts I don’t want to know what Amazon and correlate
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And for that, they also processed the data on thousands of innocent people, too. Without any legal basis or permission, probably.
Exactly. This is why this is scaring me. The police are vacuuming up data on everyone and who knows who else they’ll go after, especially if the wrong person gets into power. Even on the state level. I sure hope DeSantis’ Florida doesn’t have this ability.
ctOS, it is happening
I’m less concerned about that if its purely public data. If a police officer sat in a helicopter looking for drivers driving erratically, then notified a trooper on the ground to check on the car, and perform a field sobriety test if there is cause to do so I think that would fall within the confines of the law, even though thousands of cars could have been in their field of view and considered for potential DUI.
I am of the opinion that if the data is not either directly in public view, or the user can opt out of persisting it and it is available to the general public, even if for a fee, then its fine to use the data. I think any kind of AI algorithm’s suggestions on its own should not be considered probable cause, you can use it to narrow down suspects, but you need actual evidence for a warrant or arrest.
I think the issue I have with this situation is collecting and storing such a vast amount of travel data on individuals without their consent. If leaked, that data could be used to track down victims of stalking and abuse, or political dissidents.
“And that’s why we, the benevolent and peaceful police, need to track all your movements at all hours of the day. For the children. You don’t want to be anti-children do you? Skynet told us where you live.”
Won’t somebody PLEASE think of the children?!
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So, they tracked his plate as he crossed the state line multiple times.
I wonder how many false positives they stopped on the road before getting one successful case to boast about it.
Want to see a really fucked up case? Check this one: https://www.washingtonpost.com/technology/2022/07/15/predictive-policing-algorithms-fail/
I was expecting a link to Minority Report.
Can’t. WP paywalls suck dick.
Unexplainable results should never be probable cause because you can’t determine that the decisions were not made using protected traits either directly or inferred.