I’m looking for a portable air conditioner (the kind with 1 or 2 hoses that go to outside air). The problem I’m running into is that every single one I find has some kind of “smart” controller built in. The ones with no WiFi connectivity still have buttons to start/stop the AC, meaning that a simple Zigbee outlet switch won’t work. I could switch the AC off, but it would require a button-press to switch it back on. The ones with WiFi connectivity all require “cloud” access; my IoT devices all connect to a VLAN with no internet access, and I plan to keep it that way.
I suppose I could hack a relay in place of the “start” button, but I’d really rather just have something I can plug in and use.
I can’t use a window AC; the room has no windows. I’ll need to route intake/exhaust through the wall. So far, I can’t find any “portable” AC that will work for me.
What I’m looking for is a portable AC that either:
Connects to WiFi and integrates with HA locally.
Has no connectivity but uses “dumb” controls so I can switch it with a Zigbee outlet switch.
I’m not any kind of expert but I seem to recall that turning air conditioners off and on with a switched outlet is a bad thing… something to do with how they start and stop the compressor.
Also, unless you have no choice, stick with the dual hose models, because the single hose ones end up pushing conditioned air out the window. Even if a single hose model has a theoretically higher efficiency, it won’t translate to the real world because it’s blowing cooled air out the window.
Hacking something to replace the unit’s power button is probably your best option
I have heard the same thing about ACs, but I think it depends on the unit. The window units that I use have a switch on the front that literally just turns them off; there’s no delay time for the compressor. It’s the same as pulling the plug.
I’ve used single and dual-hose portable ACs in the past, and I only have dual-hose units now. This is purely anecdotal, but when I had single-hose units, they would maintain the temperature throughout the day as it warmed up, but they didn’t do a great job of cooling. A dual-hose AC with a similar capacity was actually able to lower the temperature.
I have two window units and a switch on the wall wired in to turn power on and off to them like yours. It would be the same as pulling the plug. I added a Shelly relay to each of them to turn them on and off via home assistant.
I can’t change any settings on them as they are physical dials on the front of the unit. However, I generally keep the dials the same and just turn them on and off with the relays.
There’s a warning not to turn the units off and then back on in 3 minutes (I’ve seen this on quite a few units), but I think lots of units only enable the fan if they are switched on in that time frame as a precaution. The compressor comes on after the warning period passes. No idea why.
Has no connectivity but uses “dumb” controls so I can switch it with a Zigbee outlet switch.
Any dumb unit can be converted into a smart one with an ESP32. If you’re up to it, it just required you to wire a transistor to the connections of each physical button of the unit and then write those to the GPIOs of the ESP32. This way you can use the GPIOs to close the circuit like the physical button does and “smartify” the thing that way.
This is looking more and more like my best option. I guess I can just buy an AC and run it with thr on-board temperature control until I have time to build and integrate an ESP board.
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I’m not any kind of expert but I seem to recall that turning air conditioners off and on with a switched outlet is a bad thing… something to do with how they start and stop the compressor.
Also, unless you have no choice, stick with the dual hose models, because the single hose ones end up pushing conditioned air out the window. Even if a single hose model has a theoretically higher efficiency, it won’t translate to the real world because it’s blowing cooled air out the window.
Hacking something to replace the unit’s power button is probably your best option
I have heard the same thing about ACs, but I think it depends on the unit. The window units that I use have a switch on the front that literally just turns them off; there’s no delay time for the compressor. It’s the same as pulling the plug.
I’ve used single and dual-hose portable ACs in the past, and I only have dual-hose units now. This is purely anecdotal, but when I had single-hose units, they would maintain the temperature throughout the day as it warmed up, but they didn’t do a great job of cooling. A dual-hose AC with a similar capacity was actually able to lower the temperature.
I have two window units and a switch on the wall wired in to turn power on and off to them like yours. It would be the same as pulling the plug. I added a Shelly relay to each of them to turn them on and off via home assistant.
I can’t change any settings on them as they are physical dials on the front of the unit. However, I generally keep the dials the same and just turn them on and off with the relays.
There’s a warning not to turn the units off and then back on in 3 minutes (I’ve seen this on quite a few units), but I think lots of units only enable the fan if they are switched on in that time frame as a precaution. The compressor comes on after the warning period passes. No idea why.
Any dumb unit can be converted into a smart one with an ESP32. If you’re up to it, it just required you to wire a transistor to the connections of each physical button of the unit and then write those to the GPIOs of the ESP32. This way you can use the GPIOs to close the circuit like the physical button does and “smartify” the thing that way.
This is looking more and more like my best option. I guess I can just buy an AC and run it with thr on-board temperature control until I have time to build and integrate an ESP board.
Just ran across this while endlessly scrolling: https://lemmy.sdf.org/post/15292568