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“About a week later right out of the blue she sends me a John Deere letter… Yeah I called her. She gave me a bunch of crap about not listening to her enough. I dunno. I wasn’t really paying attention.”


Ford did this. On multiple years of some vehicles the fuel injector can crack and leak fuel onto the engine and lead to a fire. Their fix is to put in a fucking drain tube to drain the fuel away if that happens rather than replace the faulty part. I’m wondering if there are any legal options to make them just replace the part rather than their half-ass non-fix.





How long do you intend to own and drive your Tesla, and what do you anticipate future maintenance and repair bills to look like?

Gods willing, I’ll “Ship of Theseus” this thing in perpetuity. Future costs (excluding the battery for now) will be similar to ICE where applicable. I’ll never have an alternator or transmission failure, but shocks, tires, heat, AC, and other similar items will have pretty similar costs. Touchscreen failures are pretty rare but I’m OK with that should it fail. Software updates are not a recurring cost. I imagine that would go the same route other proprietary software used to run hardware would go. Should they come out with a completely new version, there would be ample time to prep for an “end of life” scenario.

The battery degredation is a major difference. The good news is that outside abnormal failures, as it ages, the battery simply loses capacity. Most of those abnormal failures would have likely presented by now. The ICE comparison would be if your gas tank got smaller. We are a two car family for now so we could potentially push that for a long time. We could manage if the true range was less than 50 miles.

So what if decide we do want to replace the battery? $4k is much lower than estimates I’ve heard so far but I haven’t dug into it recently either. $10k-$20k is more inline with figures I’ve seen. My hope is that battery tech keeps evolving and we could potentially get more range with a replacement than the original battery. That is very much a cost I’m comfortable planning for.

If you plan to “drive it into the ground,”

To extrapolate further, I don’t want to drive it into the ground. I want to keep this vehicle as long as possible and prop it up like some mangled Frankenstein if necessary. The big reason is that I have free supercharging for life. That means, excluding any legal shenanigans to remove that, I essentially have “free gas” for life. I understand this puts me in a vastly different position than most people, especially those looking to buy an EV.

All that said, I’m mainly asking things like “where’d you hear this bad news” somewhat in an effort to keep my ear to the ground. Life happens and there’s tons of ways I’ll be in the market again for an EV. Just want to stay abreast of the situation, but also to combat any false or misleading info. In their current form, EVs aren’t appropriate for everybody. But I’ve run into a lot of people that think that based on false/misleading info. You seem to have a firm enough grasp of the situation though.


Just curious. Where did you find info indicating they were expensive to repair? I have an older Model S and that hasn’t been my experience. I had items that could have been expensive but were repaired under warranty. I know their warranty has been pared down since then. Wondering if it’s just less items covered under warranty or more repairs being necessary or some combination.


Generally it is proffered with a severance package that invalidates the unemployment. The package is likely better than what you’d get with unemployment and saves the company money by not increasing their unemployment insurance.


Well there are a lot of these planes going around the world all the time, and very seldom does anything like this happen. I just don’t want people thinking that planes aren’t safe.




Except PS5s were produced en masse. So if you buy just 1 and try to resell it for a profit, any would be buyer will just pay sticker price in a store. With the CT, people have had their name on the list for years. What’s more, is they will be produced slowly at first limiting the availability. So someone could ostensibly reserve dozens of them staggered. If you have the cash for the first one, you buy it and quickly turn it. Now you can easily buy the second when it comes available while turning a profit and so on.



Yes. Being fired means almost nothing nowadays. Worst case scenario, they fire you with cause so you can’t collect unemployment. That puts you in the exact same situation as quitting. Once you decide you want to quit, just do the bare minimum while you job search.



They should try this at those retaining ponds where they filled them with black balls.


Former republican governor for Louisiana Bobby Jindal commented on the issue saying “I could get AI to do this for me? Awesome.”



I’d heard the original saying was “I could care less, but I’d have to try.” Implying it would take effort which you weren’t going to do because that’s how little you cared.


My bet is he’d be too fucking arrogant and think people would genuinely call him out of admiration and he could create some viral moment showcasing how awesome he is.


My privacy issue would be the likely massive access they’d “require” in order to use. If using them means Meta gets access to all sorts of info just so I can use it, then hell no. If I have relatively complete control over the access I’m fine with it.


That’s where I’m at with all these strikes and stuff. They could be bordering on crazy demands and I’d still support em mainly cause fuck the establishment.


Every time one of these things happens, there’s always comments here about how humans do these things too. Two responses to that:

First, human drivers are actually really good at driving. Here’s Cory Doctorow explaining this point:

Just saying “humans are good” is a flat statement with no impact. They would need to be better than self driving cars for that to mean anything. The reason this is always pointed out when news pops up of a self driving car having an accident like this, is because those stories don’t make headlines for someone like you to use as an anecdote.

There’s like a few hundred robot taxis driving relatively few miles, and the problems are constant.

This is where you didn’t normalize to miles. Amplified by the next sentence…

I don’t know of anyone who has plugged the numbers yet, but I suspect they look pretty bad by comparison.

You don’t know the numbers. You just feel strongly about it. That’s not evidence.


Also, almost all safety numbers for transportation are meaningless unless normalized to miles driven. They also commented about these issues being “everywhere” then goes on a long diatribe against self driving cars. I rarely see anything about them likely based moreso on the media I consume. They clearly have a bias and the media they consume has likely been tailored to support that. Them seeing many articles on crashes or accidents is anecdotal at best (as it is with me having not seen many articles).


The packaging could not be either. Sterility has to be assured for the shelf life of the device. Those are typically years. These materials aren’t just cheap or convenient. They’ve been vetted over decades of research and testing.

Now this isn’t meant to rain on your parade. Just showing how even the best intentions can fall short. Tossing out solutions in areas you aren’t familiar with can just muddy discussions.


Implantable devices can’t be compostable. Catheters and other things that will go inside your body cannot be compostable. That’s not the easy solution you think it is.


Because people can’t pass out with just cruise control? He didn’t have 2.5 seconds. According to the article he had 45 minutes of multiple warnings.


I would desperately love to know what they estimated the IPO at before and after this whole mess.