What in the world even is an AI PC? Can we just get all this marketing nonsense out of the way?

Not really a surprise considering the size of their domestic market. An interesting statistic would be each of these vendor’s shares outside of their home country. I’m particularly curious at Apple’s share without the US’s iPhone majority.

It’s somewhat common. On the media encoding/decoding front, Intel has been doing this with stuff like QuickSync, AMD with AMF and Nvidia with NVENC.

There were some benchmarks that showed Ryzen getting very close and in some cases beating with Zen 4 based Z1 Extreme already. They just aren’t in laptops.

They always had their own fabs. Utilising TSMC for their GPU’s was a recent thing. For all the mistakes they have done, their GPU efforts are actually noteworthy but you don’t even have to compare them to ARM or other GPU manufacturers, just look at AMD, they’ve been killing it.

I was prompted during the initial set up of my Fold 6 (Singapore SKU) on whether I wanted to enable it or not though and the option was disabled by default. So something doesn’t seem right here or maybe this is an American SKU only thing?

Thanks for the links, they’re really informative. That said, it doesn’t seem to be entirely certain that the extra work done by the x86 arch would incur a comparatively huge difference in energy consumption. Granted, that isn’t really the point of the article. I would love to hear from someone who’s more well versed in CPU design on the impact of it’s memory model. The paper is more interesting with regards to performance but I don’t find it very conclusive since it’s comparing ARM vs TSO on an ARM processor. It does link this paper which seems more relevant to our discussion but a shame that it’s paywalled.

Their primary money makers are what’s stopping them I reckon. Apple’s move to ARM is because they already had a ton of experience with building their own in house processors for their mobile devices and ARM licenses stock chip designs, making it easier for other companies to come up with their own custom chips whereas there really isn’t any equivalent for x86-64. There were some disagreements between Intel and AMD over patents on the x86 instruction set too.

Do you mind elaborating what is it about the difference on their memory models that makes a difference?

There’s nothing stopping x86-64 processors from being power efficient. This article is pretty technical but does a really good explanation of why that’s the case: https://chipsandcheese.com/2024/03/27/why-x86-doesnt-need-to-die/

It’s just that traditionally Intel and AMD earn most of their money from the server and enterprise sectors where high performance is more important than super low power usage. And even with that, AMD’s Z1 Extreme also gets within striking distance of the M3 at a similar power draw. It also helps that Apple is generally one node ahead.

That was what 10X was supposed to be. It was supposed to be practically a full rewrite of the OS to shake off all the legacy cruft with support for existing Win32 apps through containerization. It was dropped along with the Surface Neo and they shifted their focus to Win 11 instead which is a real shame.

I’m pretty sure BetterDiscord or Vencord would very quickly add in a plugin to disable those ads.

The Surface Pros pretty much revamped the entire 2-in-1 form factor and the Surface Book was a really cool neat little device even though it was ridiculously pricey.

There was a time where Microsoft made some pretty exciting and cool hardware. The Neo was a really neat concept but nothing that came out since they unveiled and cancelled that thing has been interesting.

It doesn’t help that they typically release with processors that aren’t always the latest. If I’m looking for a Surface Pro now, I’d honestly much rather get Asus’s Z13. I just wish that came with an AMD CPU instead.

Yea it’s the same for us, the complaints from people when they see a kid in public on a tablet are weird to me cause I know as kids we always had stuff like toys we brought into restaurants (or we went to restaurants with like coloring maps and stuff).

I can understand if they’re blasting the audio out from the tablet and disrupting everyone else but if they’re not I don’t get what’s the fuss.

Hm so you mean the task bar isn’t flexible then? Not quite what I understood by not working with ultrawides but I guess I can see where you’re coming from.

What do you mean it doesn’t support ultrawide monitors? I had an ultrawide for almost a decade and every version of Windows supported it flawlessly.

What do you mean verify on the Android phone? I had 0 instances of that when I was using it.

Pretty sure you’re thinking about a completely different feature that’s tied to the Your Phone app. This is about running Android apps natively on Windows.

I still found those controllers to be the most comfortable and best VR controllers I’ve ever used. The Index controllers are great for its features but they’re a bit too heavy for my liking.

Yea, I agree with you on that front.

For what it’s worth, he’ll be suffering in his cell waiting for quite awhile until an unspecified execution date due to the Japanese death sentence system.

Force Touch is something I am not sure that was ever done outside ~the Mac~ Apple. I still love how the trackpad isn’t really a click, but a haptic tap that can occur at a configurable pressure, and does not occur at all when the device is powered off.

The recent Surface laptop also use haptic trackpads. That said I feel like I’m in the small minority that absolute hates force touch which is a real shame because the pre-force touch trackpads was the best trackpads anyone has ever made. I can definitely feel the lack of movement when I use a force touch trackpad and it feels extremely uncomfortable to me. So much that a Macbook is completely unusable without a mouse for me.

A higher price I can stand but ads in a paid service? If they do that, I don’t see any reason why I wouldn’t just use ublock origin with Spotify on the web or a modded APK instead.

I think it’ll work if they just make the screen slightly smaller than the Lite, like maybe just quarter to half an inch. Use an OLED screen for smaller bezels and then put the buttons below the screen and make it foldable like a GBA. It’ll reduce the footprint a lot.

But somehow, she’ll make it all work out.

The cost of switching over to Linux might be higher than simply getting newer hardware. Training people is pretty difficult lol

Windows 10s death is going to force a lot of poorer folks to consider alternatives - and let’s be honest, it’s going to be Linux. The majority of hardware out there in the world can’t run 11, let alone a proposed 12.

For the more technically strong people, I can see that happening but I very much doubt the general public would do that. They probably don’t even know what Linux is.

I had a Flex 14 which had a broken keyboard. Sent it for repairs and it came back with the same issue happening a minute after I turned it on. Had a bunch of friends who got a Lenovo gaming laptop that were offered at a deal with our school (was a Y-something I can’t recall). All of them ended up with strange green bands on their screens within 2 years. The whole superfish fiasco basically cemented that they’re not a company I would buy anything from ever again.

I’m currently using a Asus Zephyrus G14 and it’s been practically a flawless experience.