There’s a few devices out there that don’t offer NAT hairpin/loopback by default, such as Mikrotik.
I cancelled my subscription a couple of months ago.
Instead, I donate monthly to SomaFM, a very nice radio station with a lot of cool genres.
It’s crazy how much I missed the lack of control over what the next song was. I ended up listening to more stuff outside my comfort zone.
There’s a few devices out there that don’t offer NAT hairpin/loopback by default, such as Mikrotik.