Three visual artists are suing artificial intelligence image-generators to protect their copyrights and careers.

Visual artists fight back against AI companies for repurposing their work::Three visual artists are suing artificial intelligence image-generators to protect their copyrights and careers.

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You are drawing parallels where I don’t think there are any, and are asking me to prove things I consider self-evident.

I’m no longer interested in elaborating, and I don’t think you’d understand me if I did.

This is what it always comes down to - you have this fuzzy feeling that AI art is not real art, but the deeper you dig, the harder it gets to draw a real distinction. This is because your arguments aren’t rooted in actual definitions, so instead of clearly explaining the difference between A and B, you handwave it away due to C, which you also don’t explain.

I once held positions similar to yours, but after analysing the topic much much deeper I arrived at my current positions. I can clearly answer all the questions I posed to you. You should consider whether you not being able to means anything regarding your own position.

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I am able to answer your questions for myself. I have lost interest in doing so for you.

But can you do so from the ground up, without handwaving towards the next unexplained reason? That’s what you’ve done here so far.

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Yes.

I once held a view similar to the one you present now. I would consider my current opinion further advanced, like you do yours.

You ask for elaboration and verbal definitions, I’ve been concise because I do not wish to spend time on this.

It is clear we cannot proceed further without me doing so. I have decided I won’t.

Bummer. You could have been the first to bring actual argument for your position :)

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Not today. I have too much else to do.

And it’s not like my being concise makes my argument absent.

The issue isn’t you being concise, it’s throwing around words that don’t have a clear definition, and expecting your definition to be broadly shared. You keep referring to understanding, and yet objective evidence towards understanding is only met with “but it’s not creative”.

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Are you suggesting there is valid evidence modern ML models are capable of understanding?

I don’t see how that could be true for any definition of the word.

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