This is a hyperbolic article to be sure. But many in this thread are missing the point. It’s not that photo manipulation is new.
It’s the volume and quality of photo manipulation that’s new. “Flooding the zone with bullshit,” i.e. decreasing the signal-to-noise ratio, can have a demonstrable social effect.
It seems like the only defense against this would be something along the lines of FUTO’s Harbor, or maybe Ghost Keys. I’m not gonna pretend to know enough about them technically or practically, but a system that can anonymously prove that you’re you across websites could potentially de-fuel that fire.
Even a few months ago it was hard for people with the knowledge to use AI on photos. I don’t like the idea of this but its unavoidable. There is already so much misinformation and this will make it so much worse.
It’s going to be used prolifically for something much more boring. Embellished product listings and fake reviews. If online shopping is frustrating now. It’s probably going to get a lot worse trying to weed out good quality things to buy as photographs are no longer reliable.
Well, one may hope for a “worse is better” scenario. As in Star Wars EU, where people generally do shopping as they still do in less developed areas of our planet - asking people they trust, which ask other people they trust, and so on.
This is going to make centralized media a hellscape of fakery.
It’s like with viruses - if a virus kills people too fast, it’ll kill itself.
Maybe cypherpunk-style “public web” technologies will finally become mainstream, because the rest simply won’t be usable.
Just look at how everything has become so much worse after microsoft word introduced spell checker and photoshop unleased fuzzy select on the world. We can’t continue like this.
What do you mean explain away? I pointed out that they always stop the footage in a way that implies he dies- when he clearly doesn’t. Having an article about how AI photos can be used to manipulate our perception of reality cite an instance of careful propaganda manipulating the perception of what happened was just a little on the nose.
Seriously posting about a massacre from over 30 years ago where a few hundred people were killed fighting the cops like its supposed to carry water today? Just compare that to the massacre that’s happening right now in Gaza, way more actual evidence of heinous crimes and it’s way more of a concern to me because it’s my government funding it.
It’s a shitty toy that’ll make some people sorry when they don’t have any photos from their night out without tiny godzilla dancing on their table. It won’t have the staying power Google wishes it to, since it’s useless except for gags.
But, please, Verge,
It took specialized knowledge and specialized tools to sabotage the intuitive trust in a photograph.
These photoshop comments are missing the point that it’s just like art, a good edit that can fool everyone needs someone that practiced a lot and has lots of experience, now even the lazy asses on the right can fake it easily.
Yeah, it is going to be mainly a quantity issue rather than a quality one. The quality of faked photos has already been high since photoshop. Now a constant growing avalanche of high quality fakes (produced by all sorts of different vested interests with their own particular purposes) is going to barrage us on a daily basis, simply because it is cheap and easy
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This is a hyperbolic article to be sure. But many in this thread are missing the point. It’s not that photo manipulation is new.
It’s the volume and quality of photo manipulation that’s new. “Flooding the zone with bullshit,” i.e. decreasing the signal-to-noise ratio, can have a demonstrable social effect.
It seems like the only defense against this would be something along the lines of FUTO’s Harbor, or maybe Ghost Keys. I’m not gonna pretend to know enough about them technically or practically, but a system that can anonymously prove that you’re you across websites could potentially de-fuel that fire.
Them - and F2F.
Even a few months ago it was hard for people with the knowledge to use AI on photos. I don’t like the idea of this but its unavoidable. There is already so much misinformation and this will make it so much worse.
Awful title.
It’s the verge, after all. Nobody should read their slop
We literally lived for thousands of years without photos. And we’ve lived for 30 years with Photoshop.
Except it was way harder to do.
Now call me a “ableist, technophobic, luddite”, that wants to ruin the chance of other people making GTA-like VRMMORPGs from a single line of prompt!
The article takes a doomed tone for sure but the reality is we know how dangerous and prolific misinformation is.
I wish tools to detect if an image is real or not become as easy to use and good as these AI tools bullshit.
It’s going to be used prolifically for something much more boring. Embellished product listings and fake reviews. If online shopping is frustrating now. It’s probably going to get a lot worse trying to weed out good quality things to buy as photographs are no longer reliable.
Well, one may hope for a “worse is better” scenario. As in Star Wars EU, where people generally do shopping as they still do in less developed areas of our planet - asking people they trust, which ask other people they trust, and so on.
This is going to make centralized media a hellscape of fakery.
It’s like with viruses - if a virus kills people too fast, it’ll kill itself.
Maybe cypherpunk-style “public web” technologies will finally become mainstream, because the rest simply won’t be usable.
TAKING OUR JOBSAI Is Already Taking Jobs in the Video Game Industry - Wired
Democrats push bill to hire illegal immigrants - FOX News
HARASSING WOMEN AND CHILDRENBoys are taking images of female classmates and using AI to deepfake nude photos - Fortune
Female Fox journalist harassed and chased by migrants while reporting outside shelter - Dailymail
A THREAT TO OUR WAY OF LIFEA.I. Poses ‘Risk of Extinction,’ Industry Leaders Warn - NYTimes
Poll: Americans Fear their way of life is under threat - Fox News
THEY’RE SHITTING ON THE BEACHESREWRITING HISTORY BY DOCTORING PHOTOS WITH NEVER SEEN BEFORE PHOTO MANIPULATIONS
Sorry everyone I keep forgetting which zeitgeist that media is currently using to make us hate and fear something.
…did you just post 6 completely random articles as if there was some sort of point other than “news sites report lots of different news?”
No, I mean there’s headings and groupings to assist with the inference
There might be a point. I see an association. If others do as well that’s good. If others don’t that is also ok.
To spell it out directly. I think its weird that media is recycling headlines for AI from republican headlines for immigration.
Often I cannot see the forest for the trees but sometimes I feel the presence of it even when I’m in it.
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Just look at how everything has become so much worse after microsoft word introduced spell checker and photoshop unleased fuzzy select on the world. We can’t continue like this.
There are even actual statues of completely made up stuff.
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There was film of that exact event. The guy didn’t get run over by the tank, he got on the hood and berated the driver.
Cops in America would run you over for less
Well, luckily all just had a talk and some tea about it and nobody died
https://youtu.be/vSbx352cn8A
Explain away all these other photos then
What do you mean explain away? I pointed out that they always stop the footage in a way that implies he dies- when he clearly doesn’t. Having an article about how AI photos can be used to manipulate our perception of reality cite an instance of careful propaganda manipulating the perception of what happened was just a little on the nose.
Seriously posting about a massacre from over 30 years ago where a few hundred people were killed fighting the cops like its supposed to carry water today? Just compare that to the massacre that’s happening right now in Gaza, way more actual evidence of heinous crimes and it’s way more of a concern to me because it’s my government funding it.
No sweat since i am eschewing most things google related.
It’s a shitty toy that’ll make some people sorry when they don’t have any photos from their night out without tiny godzilla dancing on their table. It won’t have the staying power Google wishes it to, since it’s useless except for gags.
But, please, Verge,
get fucked
It’s always been about context and provenance. Who took the image? Are there supporting accounts?
But also, it has always been about the knowlege that no one… Absolutely no one… Does lines of coke from a woven mat floor covering.
Here is a famous faked photo of fairies from 1917 -> https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cottingley_Fairies
This is one of the required steps on the way to holodecks. I’ve been ready for it for 30 years.
These photoshop comments are missing the point that it’s just like art, a good edit that can fool everyone needs someone that practiced a lot and has lots of experience, now even the lazy asses on the right can fake it easily.
Yeah, it is going to be mainly a quantity issue rather than a quality one. The quality of faked photos has already been high since photoshop. Now a constant growing avalanche of high quality fakes (produced by all sorts of different vested interests with their own particular purposes) is going to barrage us on a daily basis, simply because it is cheap and easy