You used to be able to buy an entire house, pay the mortgage, support a small family, and still have minimal left over. One salary. Companies used to reward loyalty more than they do so you didn’t need to job hop to get anywhere. Universities were affordable, like you could work any job and pay for the semester from that.
Someone more familiar with the economic conditions correct me if I am wrong. Boomers could afford to live because venture capitalists weren’t extracting all the value from the economy to buy yachts.
You want families? Help people make more money and give them assistance affording literally everything, especially childcare, healthcare, housing, and education.
Republicans: If you actually care about families, help them afford things as stated above.
If you really believe in small government, make it easier for immigrants to become Americans.
Otherwise you’re gonna be starting down the barrel of a demographic collapse that will drag America into an economic gutter it’ll likely never class it’s way out of. Like China.
I wonder how many won’t have any due to the Weimar conditions in America or the looming climate apocalypse. In combination with financial issues I assume it is huge.
This is concerning. Especially people telling poor people to not have kids.
Are we just gonna take it and accept that the joy of being a parent and having children should only be a right bestowed on the wealthy? Poor people are stuck in a financial fuck loop that they will never escape, having children is the only joy some people will experience in this fucked up system
Edit: it’s crazy how many people have been brainwashed into accepting this roundabout eugenics and telling poor people they aren’t entitled to children
You aren’t. You’re supposed to stay poor, unhappy, and unable to support your kid so they can’t get a good education and can’t critically think and are taught to worship trump and the GOP.
I’m going to counter with 2 distilled, oversimplified thoughts:
Happiness is a choice; most people can find a way to be happy in their lives with what they have.
People shouldn’t have children mainly to experience joy, be complete, or just because. That’s fucked up. I know people will fluff out a number of reasons if challenged, but I think you nailed it, and I think more than a few people have kids just to have kids.
We won’t have kids because, despite doing everything right, despite working hard, we’re struggling with finances. Kids wouldn’t be affordable without an extra job, and most of work two already!
I was shopping for daycare trying to kinda get a financial picture of how we could swing it not too long ago and the cheapest daycare I could find came out to about twice my mortgage lol. So I guess I either hit the lottery so I don’t have to use daycare or I just don’t have kids
Look for certified in home daycare. Lots of GenX grandmas taking care of kids, and if you find a licensed one it’s a pretty good setup. The one I use is $100/day.
I have some kids and it’s incredibly bittersweet listening to them talk about the little art and music they create. They talk about painting pictures and making songs, being able to live in a nice house while doing that for a living.
Nope, have to be STEM, a nurse, a teacher, or learn a trade, kiddo. All those other degrees are fucking worthless and won’t get you a decent job.
Currently working my way through domestic adoption. If you’re in a state that’s criminalized abortion, you’re in luck. The maternity ward is filling up with people who make a lot worse money than many.
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Boomers: have more kids! we need the workforce
Boomers: all those taxes that made our families possible - nah fuck that. Keep the minimum wage locked for 15 years.
You used to be able to buy an entire house, pay the mortgage, support a small family, and still have minimal left over. One salary. Companies used to reward loyalty more than they do so you didn’t need to job hop to get anywhere. Universities were affordable, like you could work any job and pay for the semester from that.
Someone more familiar with the economic conditions correct me if I am wrong. Boomers could afford to live because venture capitalists weren’t extracting all the value from the economy to buy yachts.
Sure, in fact, I’m about to have a kid very soon.
Oh wow great. You know what it’ll be yet?
Well of course, they’ll be a wage slave, just like their parents.
Boomers are the most selfish generation 🤷♂️
It’s a bit of a selection bias. The self-sacrificing, hard working boomers have died out.
Only the greedy lazy bigots are still standing.
15 more years.
i see nightmares that i can’t take care of my pets. a kid would destroy me, not just financially.
Maybe if our leaders created a society more conducive to having kids more people would have them.
Hey government, are you paying attention?
Otherwise you’re gonna be starting down the barrel of a demographic collapse that will drag America into an economic gutter it’ll likely never class it’s way out of. Like China.
I wonder how many won’t have any due to the Weimar conditions in America or the looming climate apocalypse. In combination with financial issues I assume it is huge.
Very hard to justify bringing more people into the world when the folks already here feel so miserable.
This is concerning. Especially people telling poor people to not have kids. Are we just gonna take it and accept that the joy of being a parent and having children should only be a right bestowed on the wealthy? Poor people are stuck in a financial fuck loop that they will never escape, having children is the only joy some people will experience in this fucked up system
Edit: it’s crazy how many people have been brainwashed into accepting this roundabout eugenics and telling poor people they aren’t entitled to children
And how are poor people supposed to afford that joy when we can barely afford to keep ourselves housed/clothed/fed?
You aren’t. You’re supposed to stay poor, unhappy, and unable to support your kid so they can’t get a good education and can’t critically think and are taught to worship trump and the GOP.
Start making heads fucking roll
I’m going to counter with 2 distilled, oversimplified thoughts:
Happiness is a choice; most people can find a way to be happy in their lives with what they have.
People shouldn’t have children mainly to experience joy, be complete, or just because. That’s fucked up. I know people will fluff out a number of reasons if challenged, but I think you nailed it, and I think more than a few people have kids just to have kids.
All I’m hearing is neuter the poor people
For me it’s more about not subjecting a person to my own residual trauma and a society that’s accelerating towards self-annihilation
When we grew up wondering how we would address overpopulation, impoverishment wasn’t something we had in mind.
it’s by design
We won’t have kids because, despite doing everything right, despite working hard, we’re struggling with finances. Kids wouldn’t be affordable without an extra job, and most of work two already!
I was shopping for daycare trying to kinda get a financial picture of how we could swing it not too long ago and the cheapest daycare I could find came out to about twice my mortgage lol. So I guess I either hit the lottery so I don’t have to use daycare or I just don’t have kids
Look for certified in home daycare. Lots of GenX grandmas taking care of kids, and if you find a licensed one it’s a pretty good setup. The one I use is $100/day.
This, but also if it’s this bad for me, why would I create more people to partake?
I have some kids and it’s incredibly bittersweet listening to them talk about the little art and music they create. They talk about painting pictures and making songs, being able to live in a nice house while doing that for a living.
Nope, have to be STEM, a nurse, a teacher, or learn a trade, kiddo. All those other degrees are fucking worthless and won’t get you a decent job.
I’d love to have kids, but I don’t feel like I can afford it, even though I make better money than many.
Currently working my way through domestic adoption. If you’re in a state that’s criminalized abortion, you’re in luck. The maternity ward is filling up with people who make a lot worse money than many.
I guess we’ll all just be childless cat ladies.