All three Linux distros managed to beat Windows 11 while using Vavle's Proton compatibility layer.
Arch and other Linux operating systems Beat Windows 11 in Gaming Benchmarks::ComputerBase benchmarked three different Linux operating systems and found that all three can achieve better gaming performance than Windows 11.
I know it’s hearsay but I’ll throw in that on my mint rig with a ryzen CPU and nvidia GPU I haven’t had any problem with any game I’ve run through steam in the past 3-4 years. I just buy what I want and fire it up.
I don’t play comp games but haven’t had issues with the few multiplayer games i be tried
to be fair if you use windows its expected and normal, its the regular thing that come with the computer. you dont really need to talk about it because everyone is already using it.
if you use a linux distro its different and you are probably doing it for a specific reason. you might recommend it for people who would benefit because they didn’t even think of it as an option.
I always assume people use daily either mac or linux. I am always genuinely surprised when they mention they use windows. I live in a tech bubble where unix is the norm, and I find instinctively strange otherwise. Then I think about stats, and I remember we are the exception
Similar to the overall results, the frame rate difference between each OS was very small, with most titles having an fps delta of less than eight between the fastest and slowest operating systems.
Not enough for me ditch Windows and face Linux adversities.
I feel like these are all kinks that I’ll eventually be able to work out, but these are the issues I’ve faced so far:
Extreme stuttering in Yuzu. It reads 60fps but it is absolutely not. Using the AUR version, since the Flatpak can’t load my roms folder from my NAS. (Before you assume the network drive is the issue, know that it is over a 10g SFP+ on an NVMe on the NAS. No problems in Windows.)
Input issues in AUR Cemu. Cannot get my DS5 controller to work. I think it doesn’t have permissions to write to my config file for some reason so I can’t save my controller settings. Flatpak version works fine though.
Wayland does not support my dual screens on Nvidia. Was hoping that could help with my stuttering issues… shot in the dark.
BeamNG needs to render shaders for about 5mins before loading. Skipping leads to extreme stuttering. That is way too long for startup. Even big Yuzu games don’t take that long.
As an aside I’m pulling my hair out trying to get Google Drive to work properly. rclone is not behaving with Codium - I can’t reliably compile in the mounted drive like I could with Google Drive stream on Windows. Sometimes it compiles and sometimes it doesn’t. I don’t know why it works sometimes and doesn’t work other times. I need this functionality for work so that’s a bummer.
Also wake from sleep does not work.
I’m not complaining per se, if you have any tips I’m desperate to hear some. But my experience with desktop Linux has been far from smooth and my non scientific experience so far is that performance is much much better on Windows.
But I will stick it out this time. I think this is my fourth time trying to daily drive Linux.
Try using yuzu-mainline-git from the aur and change your compile flags (edit makepkg.conf) to match=native mtune=native and O3. That gives a 15% boost in totk.
Also use zram instead of zswap as that that causes terrible stuttering on yuzu if you are short of ram. The usual recommendation is to use zstd compression but I can tell you that lz4 performs better on yuzu.
“sudo pacman -S zram generator” then “sudo nano /etc/systemd/zram-generator.conf” and paste this:
I don’t understand why new Linux folks immediately go for Arch-based distros and insist on using Nvidia GPUs. Like, are you guys into suffering or something?
Yeah that’s a bummer, but in Windows that’s still a good card for gaming/CUDA. Nvidia, unfortunately, is a lot like Apple. They do have some neat tech, but they lock it behind both price and exclusivity. That’s great for C-Suite pockets, but very anti-consumer at its core.
I never understood what you people do with your machines, through the years i must have used at least half a dozen nvidia gpus and never had any real issues.
Of course early on you had to compile your drivers in the kernel yourself, but then I’m not even sure ati had drivers at the time. And that’s how you configured the kernel anyway.
I think a lot of users kinda jump in the deep end, which is fine, but expect their experience to be flawless. Then when it inevitably isn’t they get upset and disheartened. I get that.
I used endeavorOS (basically pure Arch with a GUI installer) and I have had 0 issues with Nvidia GPUs, in fact it was a smoother experience than anything else.
The reason is very simple, Arch has tons of software & all available in it’s repository (need more software you can check AUR)
The other reason is flexing to other users
For NVIDIA case it’s not that hard especially if you know what you doing, if you’re newbie you can use Garuda Linux & it will detect and install NVIDIA driver it self for you
I moved from a gtx 1060 to an RX580 and it has been terrible, recording in obs is horrible to the point that the cpu yields better results and now a recent kernel version broke the power meter on all the polaris gpus.
Crazy how far Linux gaming has come in the past 5 years. From practically non-existent, to now often running games better than the actual OS and graphics API they were designed to run on.
The only major roadblock is some anticheat software requiring highly invasive Windows rootkits to function, which Linux doesn’t really work with.
(btw has anybody noticed how people on Reddit/Lemmy are pissed off about Philips, with the financial backing of Sony, doing this on CDs in the late 90s, yet they’ll happily install half a dozen other rootkits and data harvesting programs when they install a video game? What’s up with that?)
There’s a few things I wonder about with this. They tested an AMD GPU, which is great as it shows off how awesome ACO and the RADV projects are. The Mesa devs alongside the AMD folks contributing to the RADV driver, along with all of Valve’s work, showcases how awesome FOSS can be at optimizing. I watched RADV go from underdog to top dog in performance, and it’s no longer arguable that AMD hardware works better under Linux than Windows thanks to the stellar work done on those projects.
Meanwhile we have nVidia who clings selfishly to their proprietary blobs, and I can’t help but wonder how great it could be if they opened that up and let the community in. Is it already hyper optimized to the point that the community wouldn’t be able to improve on it? Idk, but from an infrastructure standpoint, nVidia users would benefit from it immensely, if not from performance.
I recall when vkd3d-proton performance was severely impacted under nVidia, to the tune of a 40% delta, and that’s improved significantly, but I still wonder how this would look on an nVidia GPU to compare Windows vs Linux performance.
we have nVidia who clings selfishly to their proprietary blobs, and I can’t help but wonder how great it could be if they opened that up and let the community in.
Nvidia is doing that because they don’t want people to deploy gaming GPUs in datacenters, and they can currently enforce that through their driver license. That license is what enables them to force most enterprise users to buy expensive A100/H100 datacenter GPUs and rack in really fat margins when a couple of RTX 4090 cards would actually be enough to do the job with good cost efficiency. The control that Nvidia has with that license is not something they’re ready to give up and that’s why they keep giving the middle finger to the FOSS community.
(before anyone mentions vast.ai as a counter-example, those RTX 4090 compute sellers are indeed breaking Nvidia’s EULA)
I play Rocket League on Windows and Arch using Nvidia. Windows performance has been getting worse over the years. Used to have 500+ fps, now have issues getting up to steady 280. This is Psyonix’s fault though.
But still, the performance is in fact more reliable, stable, and higher overall on Linux for me. No sudden janks, no lag spikes, no nothing, as on Windows.
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I know it’s hearsay but I’ll throw in that on my mint rig with a ryzen CPU and nvidia GPU I haven’t had any problem with any game I’ve run through steam in the past 3-4 years. I just buy what I want and fire it up.
I don’t play comp games but haven’t had issues with the few multiplayer games i be tried
fyi the word you are probably looking for is Anecdotal:
I always thought that Linux is a better platform for games, the problem until now was not this, but the availability of games for Linux.
Amazing what happens when you don’t use your overhead to run bullshit ads for your Xbox controllers and games.
Arch is a gaming-focused Linux OS now lmao
I mean, it can be, if you do the right fine-tuning.
But yeah, I think they kind of missed the point. Arch seems to work pretty damn well for gaming with a completely vanilla, standard configuration.
For sure, I’m just giving them a hard time with semantics haha
If I had to guess why Arch, probably because Steam OS (on the Deck) is based on Arch
Gonna fire the first bullet:
(I also use Arch btw)
to be fair if you use windows its expected and normal, its the regular thing that come with the computer. you dont really need to talk about it because everyone is already using it.
if you use a linux distro its different and you are probably doing it for a specific reason. you might recommend it for people who would benefit because they didn’t even think of it as an option.
I always assume people use daily either mac or linux. I am always genuinely surprised when they mention they use windows. I live in a tech bubble where unix is the norm, and I find instinctively strange otherwise. Then I think about stats, and I remember we are the exception
Most people don’t even know what Linux is… and a huge amount don’t even know what version of windows they use
As an Arch user myself… I feel seen.
Very cool
Not enough for me ditch Windows and face Linux adversities.
I recently made the switch to Manjaro.
I feel like these are all kinks that I’ll eventually be able to work out, but these are the issues I’ve faced so far:
Extreme stuttering in Yuzu. It reads 60fps but it is absolutely not. Using the AUR version, since the Flatpak can’t load my roms folder from my NAS. (Before you assume the network drive is the issue, know that it is over a 10g SFP+ on an NVMe on the NAS. No problems in Windows.)
Input issues in AUR Cemu. Cannot get my DS5 controller to work. I think it doesn’t have permissions to write to my config file for some reason so I can’t save my controller settings. Flatpak version works fine though.
Wayland does not support my dual screens on Nvidia. Was hoping that could help with my stuttering issues… shot in the dark.
BeamNG needs to render shaders for about 5mins before loading. Skipping leads to extreme stuttering. That is way too long for startup. Even big Yuzu games don’t take that long.
As an aside I’m pulling my hair out trying to get Google Drive to work properly. rclone is not behaving with Codium - I can’t reliably compile in the mounted drive like I could with Google Drive stream on Windows. Sometimes it compiles and sometimes it doesn’t. I don’t know why it works sometimes and doesn’t work other times. I need this functionality for work so that’s a bummer.
Also wake from sleep does not work.
I’m not complaining per se, if you have any tips I’m desperate to hear some. But my experience with desktop Linux has been far from smooth and my non scientific experience so far is that performance is much much better on Windows.
But I will stick it out this time. I think this is my fourth time trying to daily drive Linux.
Try using yuzu-mainline-git from the aur and change your compile flags (edit makepkg.conf) to match=native mtune=native and O3. That gives a 15% boost in totk.
Also use zram instead of zswap as that that causes terrible stuttering on yuzu if you are short of ram. The usual recommendation is to use zstd compression but I can tell you that lz4 performs better on yuzu.
“sudo pacman -S zram generator” then “sudo nano /etc/systemd/zram-generator.conf” and paste this:
Also make sure you are running gamemode with yuzu. Same with steam games.
Thanks! I will try all of these suggestions.
I don’t understand why new Linux folks immediately go for Arch-based distros and insist on using Nvidia GPUs. Like, are you guys into suffering or something?
Ugh, I got a 2080 years ago and it’s been such a pain in the ass. Never again.
Yeah that’s a bummer, but in Windows that’s still a good card for gaming/CUDA. Nvidia, unfortunately, is a lot like Apple. They do have some neat tech, but they lock it behind both price and exclusivity. That’s great for C-Suite pockets, but very anti-consumer at its core.
I never understood what you people do with your machines, through the years i must have used at least half a dozen nvidia gpus and never had any real issues.
Of course early on you had to compile your drivers in the kernel yourself, but then I’m not even sure ati had drivers at the time. And that’s how you configured the kernel anyway.
I think a lot of users kinda jump in the deep end, which is fine, but expect their experience to be flawless. Then when it inevitably isn’t they get upset and disheartened. I get that.
I used endeavorOS (basically pure Arch with a GUI installer) and I have had 0 issues with Nvidia GPUs, in fact it was a smoother experience than anything else.
That’s rad, man. Glad you’re happy.
The reason is very simple, Arch has tons of software & all available in it’s repository (need more software you can check AUR)
The other reason is flexing to other users
For NVIDIA case it’s not that hard especially if you know what you doing, if you’re newbie you can use Garuda Linux & it will detect and install NVIDIA driver it self for you
I moved from a gtx 1060 to an RX580 and it has been terrible, recording in obs is horrible to the point that the cpu yields better results and now a recent kernel version broke the power meter on all the polaris gpus.
That sucks, bud. Sorry AMD let you down.
Crazy how far Linux gaming has come in the past 5 years. From practically non-existent, to now often running games better than the actual OS and graphics API they were designed to run on.
The only major roadblock is some anticheat software requiring highly invasive Windows rootkits to function, which Linux doesn’t really work with.
(btw has anybody noticed how people on Reddit/Lemmy are pissed off about Philips, with the financial backing of Sony, doing this on CDs in the late 90s, yet they’ll happily install half a dozen other rootkits and data harvesting programs when they install a video game? What’s up with that?)
also Proton-GE with AMD FSR is basically just like downloading more FPS no matter which game you’re playing
No mention of important metrics like frame times, and 1-0,1% fps lows. You can feel these in game, even if you have 200+ fps.
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FH5 is awful on Linux. Even after I switched to an AMD card it’ll cause system-wide crashes.
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There’s a few things I wonder about with this. They tested an AMD GPU, which is great as it shows off how awesome ACO and the RADV projects are. The Mesa devs alongside the AMD folks contributing to the RADV driver, along with all of Valve’s work, showcases how awesome FOSS can be at optimizing. I watched RADV go from underdog to top dog in performance, and it’s no longer arguable that AMD hardware works better under Linux than Windows thanks to the stellar work done on those projects.
Meanwhile we have nVidia who clings selfishly to their proprietary blobs, and I can’t help but wonder how great it could be if they opened that up and let the community in. Is it already hyper optimized to the point that the community wouldn’t be able to improve on it? Idk, but from an infrastructure standpoint, nVidia users would benefit from it immensely, if not from performance.
I recall when vkd3d-proton performance was severely impacted under nVidia, to the tune of a 40% delta, and that’s improved significantly, but I still wonder how this would look on an nVidia GPU to compare Windows vs Linux performance.
Nvidia is doing that because they don’t want people to deploy gaming GPUs in datacenters, and they can currently enforce that through their driver license. That license is what enables them to force most enterprise users to buy expensive A100/H100 datacenter GPUs and rack in really fat margins when a couple of RTX 4090 cards would actually be enough to do the job with good cost efficiency. The control that Nvidia has with that license is not something they’re ready to give up and that’s why they keep giving the middle finger to the FOSS community.
(before anyone mentions vast.ai as a counter-example, those RTX 4090 compute sellers are indeed breaking Nvidia’s EULA)
I play Rocket League on Windows and Arch using Nvidia. Windows performance has been getting worse over the years. Used to have 500+ fps, now have issues getting up to steady 280. This is Psyonix’s fault though.
But still, the performance is in fact more reliable, stable, and higher overall on Linux for me. No sudden janks, no lag spikes, no nothing, as on Windows.