“American companies have been stupid and short sighted.”
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Are you losing a race if you sit at home and ignore it?

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They don’t have to worry, because the Buy American provisions in recent legislation (passed under both Trump and Biden) protects them from competition by more fuel efficient foreign competitors.

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The classic definition of “American” cars has really fallen apart. Stellantis is an international consortium at the management level. GM and Ford have extensive manufacturing in Canada and Mexico. Honda, Toyota, VW, etc assemble most of their North American vehicles in the US. Parts come from all over the world. Even if the part assemblies are made in the US, supplies (or the component supplies) are globally sourced.

Phrased another way, can you really call it American if the lithium is mined in Africa, refined in China, assembled into a battery in Ohio, assembled as a car in Mexico, under the direction of a company headquartered in Detroit? Same for steel, glass, etc?

At what point does it become, or cease to be, an American car?

(In 1984, this question was directly answered by Honda, by creating their first assembly plant in Marysville, OH. Based on the laws at the time, this meant anything manufactured there qualified as an “American” car, not subject to import taxes and restrictions)

Were they trying to win?

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I thought they already lost during the OPEC oil crisis and then lobbied congress to put import restrictions on foreign cars to save themselves.

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They did, decades ago. That is no longer an issue.

Now we have current efficiency standards that focus on cars. However trucks have much lower requirements because businesses might need additional capabilities. No individual would ever buy a truck as a personal vehicle , right? So you have these criteria meant to give a break to businesses, but ever larger vehicles mean that personal vehicles now also qualify. They can be made more cheaply, with more profit.

Somehow, they didn’t consider the criteria would be abused for more profitable personal vehicles

  • Pickup truck? Clearly a contractor so let’s give you a break
  • All wheel drive and high clearance? Clearly a rare specialty off-road vehicle that needs a break
  • Seats 7+, even if they’re only toddlers? Clearly a transportation service, so needs a break in efficiency to carry more passengers
  • Tow hitch? Clearly in need of extra torque and heavy duty frame for whatever business need you’re towing

Until the exemptions for “light trucks” go away this won’t change. The current CAFE standards reward automakers for making even larger, less efficient and more dangerous “passenger” vehicles every year.

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“American Automakers Refuse to Participate in Race to Make Accessible, Fuel-Efficient Vehicles”

Fixed that title for you, Verge.

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It this Onion News? No one can use “american automakers” and “fuel-efficency” in the same phrase!

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