This doesn’t really seem like OOTL and more like “I need someone to Google this for me.” I usually hate snarky answers like the one I’m writing right now, but come on.
I’m going to play devil’s advocate here and say that while they could search it, there are specific questions they wanted answers to and many articles go into a lot of depth.
Many Lemmy answers are going to be much more succinct and only provide what is asked or even give alternative viewpoints/sources in one spot.
It doesn’t excuse the laziness, but more an alternative perspective.
He’s in Russia now being used as a propaganda mouthpiece against the West, that’s how he survives, by doing whatever Russian intel tells him to do.
This isn’t totally a knock against him, he was caught between a rock and a hard place, and chose the “be used by dictators” route, rather than the “definitely go to prison for a while” route.
We just need better whistleblower protections and oversight here in the states, but if anything the spying on us has gotten worse since Snowden, while also still allowing for Internet Nazis to spread like a cancer with almost no pushback.
Your 1st paragraph, do you have actual proof of that? Serious question.
I think it makes sense given the situation, and would be completely unsurprising since it’s Russia and they torture people. And his wife and child (multiple kids now?) are there with him. In his case I’d just do exactly as told out of fear.
But just curious if there’s any tangible evidence of this or anything he’s doing over there.
This blog post is kind of biased but it has good links to some of the articles about the times that Snowden has “toed the party line” for Putin’s regime. So mamy articles coming up in those useless garbage we now call search engines just pull up where Snowden has sworn an oath to Russia and has been given citizenship so therefore he’s eligible to go fight Ukraine now, rather than things more related to my search.
There’s enough anecdotal to be highly suspect. Changes in his message and tone over the years. Unbidden declarations that he’s not being paid or directed by Russia. I can’t say he’s saying much out of character these days though.
He leaked a ton of gov’t documents. Some on domestic spying things that had been known about for some time. This was a good thing. He also leaked a bunch of stuff about U.S. international spying. That was not good. He might have gotten away with leaking domestic stuff. Or lightly gotten away, who knows. But he was without a doubt going to jail for leaking international intel. And rightfully so. As said, he ran away to Russia instead of face the music. If you can’t do the time, don’t do the crime.
My memory is fuzzy. Didn’t he originally try to give the full, un-redacted docs to just newspapers, but got frustrated with the slowness/unresponsiveness or something and then everything went public? Or am I thinking of the earlier guy who worked on writing illegal software for the government, tried to blow the whistle and then got in trouble? Or am I thinking of a subsequent whistleblower who tried to use a secure dropbox for media, but it turned out to be insecure? There’s just been so many people trying to show proof of shady government stuff that I can’t keep track of which of the folks are supposed to be ‘bad’ for doing so.
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This doesn’t really seem like OOTL and more like “I need someone to Google this for me.” I usually hate snarky answers like the one I’m writing right now, but come on.
I came to share the same thing, but then I am liking the bits of conversation people are having.
Yes! That’s what Lemmy is all about. If I wanted to sit in a dark quiet room and stare at Google and Wikipedia with no interaction, I would do that.
Agree! Happy reading OP: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edward_Snowden
The specificity on a non-common topic makes me think this is a school homework assignment.
OP is 48 years old. She has no homework assignments. Her curiosity on this topic was piqued by another Lemmy post.
I’m going to play devil’s advocate here and say that while they could search it, there are specific questions they wanted answers to and many articles go into a lot of depth.
Many Lemmy answers are going to be much more succinct and only provide what is asked or even give alternative viewpoints/sources in one spot.
It doesn’t excuse the laziness, but more an alternative perspective.
He’s in Russia now being used as a propaganda mouthpiece against the West, that’s how he survives, by doing whatever Russian intel tells him to do.
This isn’t totally a knock against him, he was caught between a rock and a hard place, and chose the “be used by dictators” route, rather than the “definitely go to prison for a while” route.
We just need better whistleblower protections and oversight here in the states, but if anything the spying on us has gotten worse since Snowden, while also still allowing for Internet Nazis to spread like a cancer with almost no pushback.
Your 1st paragraph, do you have actual proof of that? Serious question.
I think it makes sense given the situation, and would be completely unsurprising since it’s Russia and they torture people. And his wife and child (multiple kids now?) are there with him. In his case I’d just do exactly as told out of fear.
But just curious if there’s any tangible evidence of this or anything he’s doing over there.
This blog post is kind of biased but it has good links to some of the articles about the times that Snowden has “toed the party line” for Putin’s regime. So mamy articles coming up in those useless garbage we now call search engines just pull up where Snowden has sworn an oath to Russia and has been given citizenship so therefore he’s eligible to go fight Ukraine now, rather than things more related to my search.
There’s enough anecdotal to be highly suspect. Changes in his message and tone over the years. Unbidden declarations that he’s not being paid or directed by Russia. I can’t say he’s saying much out of character these days though.
He leaked a ton of gov’t documents. Some on domestic spying things that had been known about for some time. This was a good thing. He also leaked a bunch of stuff about U.S. international spying. That was not good. He might have gotten away with leaking domestic stuff. Or lightly gotten away, who knows. But he was without a doubt going to jail for leaking international intel. And rightfully so. As said, he ran away to Russia instead of face the music. If you can’t do the time, don’t do the crime.
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Yep. Every time I bring up the objectively bad parts of the leaks, people just flip out.
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My memory is fuzzy. Didn’t he originally try to give the full, un-redacted docs to just newspapers, but got frustrated with the slowness/unresponsiveness or something and then everything went public? Or am I thinking of the earlier guy who worked on writing illegal software for the government, tried to blow the whistle and then got in trouble? Or am I thinking of a subsequent whistleblower who tried to use a secure dropbox for media, but it turned out to be insecure? There’s just been so many people trying to show proof of shady government stuff that I can’t keep track of which of the folks are supposed to be ‘bad’ for doing so.