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First I was surprised they rolled it out already, then of how bad it was. I knew of Google’s AI blunders from their faked reveals but I didn’t think they‘d actually roll them out in this state. They really just want to turn the internet into the next TV where you don‘t really get to choose when you get to see what exactly and they‘re willing to crash and burn themselves by doing so if they must. Insanity.
The internet and technology moved on. We reached a point where google is obsolete. Google decided to cancel any product they had, that was not as successful as their ads space and now they have nothing else left. Is there even one service left that google is leading in? Maybe chromium browser and that’s it. Yet one can easily switch to Firefox right now.
I guess they are leading in E-Mail? Whatever that is worth I am not sure. And Youtube is pretty much toe to toe with TikTok so they have that going for them which is nice. But yeah they’ve done a pretty bad job at making themselves indispensable. If anything they‘re looking far more dispensable than ever. Still huge, but their future is rather uncertain.
Maybe the problem is a lot of their marketing relies on the dominance of their search engine (ie sponsored search results, and ads based on user searches, as well as tracking user web usage via their search click throughs and other cookies). If open ai’s products become the go to for questions and basic searches, they will eventually be able to use that dominance to include marketing results in their answers. I think this threat is why they want to try to compete with them to be able to offer an alternative. Because it doesn’t actually have to be better than chat gpt. It just has to be similar enough for people to continue using Google rather than change their habits to use chatgpt, or Microsoft’s implementations of it. Especially with windows 11 where copilot (basically Microsoft rebrand of chatgpt) is built in and you can use it from the task bar. That ease of use may steadily decrease people’s reliance on Google search, which will eventually hurt their ability to sell targeted ads.
I’m confused a little by the LLM’s and datasets here.
OpenAI and Reddit have their partnership for training, so I would have assumed the pizza glue answer would have come from an OpenAI result, but Google doesn’t use OpenAI. How did Google give an answer that was clearly scraped from Reddit?
But I don’t think it’s just an issue with the dataset. It’s the false promise of these LLMs having a fucking clue what a good search result is and what is not. They don’t. They are just good at creating text that sounds plausible. That’s not what searching for factually correct information is about though.
Thank you for the link. I didn’t realise that Google had a deal with Reddit as well, which explains why it was clearly indexed from Reddit.
I agree that AI doesn’t have a clue what an accurate response is. It’s just not sentient enough to differentiate between shitposting and fact. I also totally agree that an answer given from a search result HAS to be accurate, and we’re heading down a path of a misinformation super highway if LLMs are trained on incorrect data.
Tbf organic culinary glue is very much a thing. But with pizza I have no idea why, it’s mostly used in fancy Michelin gastronomy to keep complex, small dishes together.
Well its non toxic so its clearly edible, maybe, so fucksmith could have a valid point. I can not wait untill someone tries out the glue on pizza recipe!
Why would we believe the promises of the ones who ruined the primary utility of their core product in the first place, and convinced or blackmailed the rest of the internet to take part in the ruination ? An advertising corporation will tell us to put cyanide on our pizza if it makes them an extra buck this quarter, and google is worse than that. Profit despite the social costs is doing no evil /s
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Stupid IA sniffed all the good glue instead of putting it on its pizza.
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Every AI “answer” I’ve gotten from Google is factually incorrect, often ludicrously so.
First I was surprised they rolled it out already, then of how bad it was. I knew of Google’s AI blunders from their faked reveals but I didn’t think they‘d actually roll them out in this state. They really just want to turn the internet into the next TV where you don‘t really get to choose when you get to see what exactly and they‘re willing to crash and burn themselves by doing so if they must. Insanity.
Started paying for Kagi. I’m done with Google or Bing.
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Have you tried Kagi?
Why would they? Bing is free.
Sure it is. So are the sponsored results. Something you don’t get on Kagi.
Have you tried an adblock?
It uses a whole bunch of potential sources. It is not a front-end for Bing like, say, DuckDuckGo.
If that’s the case, why not use searx? I could only see myself using a paid search engine if
It demonstrably returned results relevant to my search more accurately than their competitors
It was well documented that they respected my privacy and how
It showed me no advertisements
It doesn’t utilize SEO marketing tactics to adjust its search results
It supported !bangs for very fast searching of specific websites and/or other search engines
I don’t know about #2, but the other 4 are true. #1 may be somewhat subjective but in my experience it is certainly true.
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Sounds like Google wants to get out of the search engine business. Maybe we should help them. Try DuckDuckGo. Or SearX
https://searx.space/
Just FYI, SearX is dead. Long live SearXNG
The internet and technology moved on. We reached a point where google is obsolete. Google decided to cancel any product they had, that was not as successful as their ads space and now they have nothing else left. Is there even one service left that google is leading in? Maybe chromium browser and that’s it. Yet one can easily switch to Firefox right now.
I guess they are leading in E-Mail? Whatever that is worth I am not sure. And Youtube is pretty much toe to toe with TikTok so they have that going for them which is nice. But yeah they’ve done a pretty bad job at making themselves indispensable. If anything they‘re looking far more dispensable than ever. Still huge, but their future is rather uncertain.
They’re trying to compete with open AI which they shouldn’t be… They’re a marketing firm with a search engine.
Maybe the problem is a lot of their marketing relies on the dominance of their search engine (ie sponsored search results, and ads based on user searches, as well as tracking user web usage via their search click throughs and other cookies). If open ai’s products become the go to for questions and basic searches, they will eventually be able to use that dominance to include marketing results in their answers. I think this threat is why they want to try to compete with them to be able to offer an alternative. Because it doesn’t actually have to be better than chat gpt. It just has to be similar enough for people to continue using Google rather than change their habits to use chatgpt, or Microsoft’s implementations of it. Especially with windows 11 where copilot (basically Microsoft rebrand of chatgpt) is built in and you can use it from the task bar. That ease of use may steadily decrease people’s reliance on Google search, which will eventually hurt their ability to sell targeted ads.
I’m confused a little by the LLM’s and datasets here.
OpenAI and Reddit have their partnership for training, so I would have assumed the pizza glue answer would have come from an OpenAI result, but Google doesn’t use OpenAI. How did Google give an answer that was clearly scraped from Reddit?
Google has a deal with reddit as well. https://www.reuters.com/technology/reddit-ai-content-licensing-deal-with-google-sources-say-2024-02-22/?utm_source=reddit.com
But I don’t think it’s just an issue with the dataset. It’s the false promise of these LLMs having a fucking clue what a good search result is and what is not. They don’t. They are just good at creating text that sounds plausible. That’s not what searching for factually correct information is about though.
Thank you for the link. I didn’t realise that Google had a deal with Reddit as well, which explains why it was clearly indexed from Reddit.
I agree that AI doesn’t have a clue what an accurate response is. It’s just not sentient enough to differentiate between shitposting and fact. I also totally agree that an answer given from a search result HAS to be accurate, and we’re heading down a path of a misinformation super highway if LLMs are trained on incorrect data.
Why does this company suck at AI even more than the other companies? Android has had machine learning for years already.
C’mon. It’s non toxic glue. Suck it up and follow the directions. /s
Tbf organic culinary glue is very much a thing. But with pizza I have no idea why, it’s mostly used in fancy Michelin gastronomy to keep complex, small dishes together.
Well its non toxic so its clearly edible, maybe, so fucksmith could have a valid point. I can not wait untill someone tries out the glue on pizza recipe!
Glue isnt toxic, but is it flammable?
It solves the problem of toppings falling off and staining clothes.
Egg white is pretty good, non toxic, non flammable glue.
uh oh!
The future lawsuits, I can see them already, and they will be wild.
people will die
Why would we believe the promises of the ones who ruined the primary utility of their core product in the first place, and convinced or blackmailed the rest of the internet to take part in the ruination ? An advertising corporation will tell us to put cyanide on our pizza if it makes them an extra buck this quarter, and google is worse than that. Profit despite the social costs is doing no evil /s
Shit writes itself.
Except it’s still in their writing, just not front and center like it was before, right?
They changed it to “Do the right thing” which literally makes it less original but more importantly, more pliable, “do the right thing… for ‘google’.”
Im shure the CEO is “doing the right thing… for his wallet”
That was removed as their motto in 2015, following a restructuring of Google as a subsidiary of Alphabet.
I barely use Google now. I’m on Yandex or DuckDuckGo. Yandex is probably the best right now for me.
…Yandex…?
Yeh, you don’t like it?
… yes they said yandex what of it?
Flavour your glue people!
i look forward to seeing this suggestion in shitty google ai overviews in the future.