Conservative government would require ID to watch porn: Poilievre::OTTAWA — A future Conservative government would change the law to require that porn websites verify the age of users to prevent minors from accessing the content, Opposition Leader Pierre Poilievre signalled on Wednesday. When asked whether his government would require porn websites to verify the age of users, Poilievre gave a one-word answer: “Yes.” […]
I have a few honest questions for anyone who supports this kind of legislation.
First, what problem specifically is this trying to address? Have teen pregnancies gone up since the advent of kids being able to access porn on the internet? Kids with STDs? Sexual assaults on children? What specific metric has changed that makes this kind of legislation a priority right now? Is there a model that shows a correlation between the behaviors this legislation intends to address and the social ills you believe are associated with it?
Second is the related question of what metrics you think will improve with the introduction of this legislation? How long do you think it will take for that change to come about? If it does not, would you support removing this legislation?
Third, if a social ill were to be associated as per the above with online content, would you support similar legislation to regulate access (eg, if hate speech or LGBT-phobia posted online were to show a positive correlation with intolerance or violence), would you require online services to monitor access to sites hosting that kind of content, such as requiring a government issued ID to be kept on record and associated with specific user accounts?
Call me old-fashioned, but I don’t think kids should have unrestricted access to the unlimited amount of hardcore porn available on the internet. I think it has a negative effect on their development and can cause all kinds of misconceptions about sex as well as body-dysphoria in men and women. In the past, ID was required to purchase magazines like Playboy or rent adult movies and ID is required to access strip clubs or sex shops. I don’t think it’s unreasonable to have a way to verify age before accessing internet porn.
And I’m speaking from experience here, I’m a millennial and I started watching porn in my early teens. But in hindsight I wouldn’t say it was a good thing.
I don’t see that previous generations had a better attitude towards sexuality. I rather think it was worse.
Age verification can only be seriously enforced through very intrusive surveillance of internet activity. You’d need a good reason to justify that, which doesn’t exist. How about we give all minors cameras to put in their bedrooms, so that CPS can check in on them? Too intrusive? Well, that actually might help against child abuse, which is a real issue.
This is what I worry about. If I’m on a list for accessing porn, what’s to stop them from seeing I like to watch gay porn? Then I’m on the gay list. Wrong government comes in and now I’m in more danger than I already am just for simply existing different from church approved heterosexual behavior.
I don’t want kids watching porn/violence for what it’s worth. Surely there is a privacy respecting aspect to this issue, but ID for access is a dangerous precedent
Sure, but parents are responsible for their kid’s internet use, not the fucking government.
All these bullshit "won’t anyone think of the kids’ internet regulation things are all about tracking the whole population, the kids are just the excuse they use to try to roll this nonsense trough.
I don’t want my kid to murder someone, so ban all violence on TV and in movies and videogames for everyone in the entire country so I don’t have to parent.
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I have a few honest questions for anyone who supports this kind of legislation.
First, what problem specifically is this trying to address? Have teen pregnancies gone up since the advent of kids being able to access porn on the internet? Kids with STDs? Sexual assaults on children? What specific metric has changed that makes this kind of legislation a priority right now? Is there a model that shows a correlation between the behaviors this legislation intends to address and the social ills you believe are associated with it?
Second is the related question of what metrics you think will improve with the introduction of this legislation? How long do you think it will take for that change to come about? If it does not, would you support removing this legislation?
Third, if a social ill were to be associated as per the above with online content, would you support similar legislation to regulate access (eg, if hate speech or LGBT-phobia posted online were to show a positive correlation with intolerance or violence), would you require online services to monitor access to sites hosting that kind of content, such as requiring a government issued ID to be kept on record and associated with specific user accounts?
Call me old-fashioned, but I don’t think kids should have unrestricted access to the unlimited amount of hardcore porn available on the internet. I think it has a negative effect on their development and can cause all kinds of misconceptions about sex as well as body-dysphoria in men and women. In the past, ID was required to purchase magazines like Playboy or rent adult movies and ID is required to access strip clubs or sex shops. I don’t think it’s unreasonable to have a way to verify age before accessing internet porn.
And I’m speaking from experience here, I’m a millennial and I started watching porn in my early teens. But in hindsight I wouldn’t say it was a good thing.
I don’t see that previous generations had a better attitude towards sexuality. I rather think it was worse.
Age verification can only be seriously enforced through very intrusive surveillance of internet activity. You’d need a good reason to justify that, which doesn’t exist. How about we give all minors cameras to put in their bedrooms, so that CPS can check in on them? Too intrusive? Well, that actually might help against child abuse, which is a real issue.
Install a router with content filtering.
Raising children is the parent’s responsibility. Stop oppressing the rest of us due to one’s own laziness or incompetence.
Only logical answer here
This is what I worry about. If I’m on a list for accessing porn, what’s to stop them from seeing I like to watch gay porn? Then I’m on the gay list. Wrong government comes in and now I’m in more danger than I already am just for simply existing different from church approved heterosexual behavior.
I don’t want kids watching porn/violence for what it’s worth. Surely there is a privacy respecting aspect to this issue, but ID for access is a dangerous precedent
Sure, but parents are responsible for their kid’s internet use, not the fucking government. All these bullshit "won’t anyone think of the kids’ internet regulation things are all about tracking the whole population, the kids are just the excuse they use to try to roll this nonsense trough.
I don’t want my kid to murder someone, so ban all violence on TV and in movies and videogames for everyone in the entire country so I don’t have to parent.
Wow, you really teased out the nuance in a good faith effort champ.
I wondered the same thing and I eventually figured it out. Here are 5 metrics that have gone up: LGBTQ.