At the same time, wired earphones/headphones are already just as good with a lot less parts/complexity.
You don’t need batteries, radios, and chips for coding/decoding a signal coming out of a headphone jack. You can just plumb it straight into the speakers. No need to mess with controls and all of that, which would make them a lot cheaper.
I love how higher IP rating is always the argument, it looks like everybody in this planet is doing daily deep diving and needs its smartphone to do that 😅
We have a fake economy. All investments, researching and efforts could be decided by state (we/public). Protecting society interests and not “investors” interests is an obligation
One sensible right doesn’t overweight the never-ending bullshit coming from them.
And imo this is not a sensible right. To change a battery in phones is easy even now. All you need is heat gun (hairdryer), new battery, phone tape (2$ ali) and 30 mins of your time…
Also watter resistance will take a hit… I wouldn’t sink my phone under watter with detachable back cover even if it had ip68 by producer. They don’t even cover it in reclamation now.
Compare to how it used to be, removing the battery cover and replacing the battery on the fly. And water resistance with removable batteries has been and can be done. Stop with this nonsense.
Looking forward to seeing If companies will just do the bare minimum to pass or if we’ll see some actual innovation. It would be cool to be able to buy spare batteries, that are quick to replace and easy to carry around along with a charging station or something so you can always have a full battery with you.
Honestly, I’m all for it if it means bringing back ridiculously sized phone batteries with huge bumps that can act as a finger shelf. My note 2 with a 4200mah battery was a beast in 2013.
My current device and the two before that all have had removable batteries. I’ve always thought built in batteries are stupid and it’s nice to finally notice that other people agree. Hopefully they next mandate that it has to be able to be taken apart with a screwdriver and spare parts must be able to be purchased straight from the manufacturer.
This needs to be true of notebooks too. I love my 2015 Macbook Air, but the battery lasts about five minutes and I use it way too much to take the time to get it replaced. Especially when it’s old enough to not be supported soon. But if I could just spend $50 and replace the battery myself without fucking things up, which I totally would as things stand now, I would be able to use it without keeping it plugged in all the time like I used to.
The neat thing about EU regulations is that they are iterated over constantly, so even if they don’t get it 100% right the first time, they’re able to nail things down in subsequent iterations. Look at how quickly they struck down any fantasies Apple had of still fucking people over with their own type c implementation fuckery. The direction the EU is taking is already doing plenty good for the entire world.
Yeah, that’s possible. I’m more worried about a built in battery chip preventing users from sharing batteries, like once it’s installed, it’s activated and it’s locked to that device. Meaning you’d have to buy only from that manufacture and the price will be higher.
While I am for this, this could create more E waste. Now there will be companies producing more batteries as consumers can now swap out batteries. So it’s possible that tons of batteries now just sit on shelves for years and eventually end up going to waste.
Yeah exactly, isn’t it causing way more E waste when people have to replace their phones every 3-5 years because of a battery only? Hopefully now in the future you can replace that battery and use your phone even longer. Resulting in only batteries being replaced which could probably be recycled somehow (I’m no expert on this, so no clue if what I’m saying is correct :P )
It depends on the amount of extra batteries that are made. In 2022, 225 million iPhones were sold. If an extra battery for every phone was produced, but only half of those consumers ever buy a new battery then we are looking at over 100 million wasted batteries. Then eventually all of those 225 million consumers would get a new phone anyways, so it still becomes waste at some point. I’m sure they will get better at predicting how many extra batteries to make eventually though. I do wonder how much it’s needed these days though. I get a new device every ~ 18 months but my spouse uses devices for ~ 5 years before getting a new one. She usually gets a new one just because of newer features, battery degradation doesn’t seem to be as much of an issue anymore.
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*batterie exists out of two parts. One of them is fused to the screen.
All we need now is a headphone jack
We need SD cards more. They removed them so they can charge you 300 $ to upgrade 128gb and to force you into shitty cloud service.
Again, just anti consumer bullshit spearheaded by Apple and gargled by Samsung.
Can’t imagine that getting mandated unfortunately
I’d be almost ready to say that we don’t need them any more if Bluetooth headphones were about 100x better and cheaper
Still too much lag. I love my QC45s, but there’s still just enough lag to bother me
At the same time, wired earphones/headphones are already just as good with a lot less parts/complexity.
You don’t need batteries, radios, and chips for coding/decoding a signal coming out of a headphone jack. You can just plumb it straight into the speakers. No need to mess with controls and all of that, which would make them a lot cheaper.
I came across this insane opinion piece the other day: https://www.laptopmag.com/features/mind-eurown-business-for-the-sake-of-the-iphone-apple-needs-to-fight-back
It’s so surreal, it feels satirical
I sure hope it’s satire, but that pun!
“Mind EUROwn business?” chef’s kiss
I… Couldn’t even make it through the whole article. Absolutely insane.
I love how higher IP rating is always the argument, it looks like everybody in this planet is doing daily deep diving and needs its smartphone to do that 😅
You’d think they’d figure out a way to have those high IP ratings and have removable batteries (they have afaik)
My Galaxy XCover 6Pro has a removable battery (and headphone jack) and is ip68 rated
Thank fucking god for the EU, for fighting for global digital rights where nobody else does.
We have a fake economy. All investments, researching and efforts could be decided by state (we/public). Protecting society interests and not “investors” interests is an obligation
One sensible right doesn’t overweight the never-ending bullshit coming from them.
And imo this is not a sensible right. To change a battery in phones is easy even now. All you need is heat gun (hairdryer), new battery, phone tape (2$ ali) and 30 mins of your time…
Also watter resistance will take a hit… I wouldn’t sink my phone under watter with detachable back cover even if it had ip68 by producer. They don’t even cover it in reclamation now.
Compare to how it used to be, removing the battery cover and replacing the battery on the fly. And water resistance with removable batteries has been and can be done. Stop with this nonsense.
True. Between the private healthcare, abortion rights, school shootings…
Oh wait, you weren’t talking about the US?
Looking forward to seeing If companies will just do the bare minimum to pass or if we’ll see some actual innovation. It would be cool to be able to buy spare batteries, that are quick to replace and easy to carry around along with a charging station or something so you can always have a full battery with you.
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Apple will figure out a way to DRM batteries so that no one but them can sell them and they’ll cost as much as a new phone.
Well, uhm… - it’s been designed in California, you know?!
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Who says there can’t be SFF phones with replacable batteries. In fact, old samsung phones had replacable batteries.
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Honestly, I’m all for it if it means bringing back ridiculously sized phone batteries with huge bumps that can act as a finger shelf. My note 2 with a 4200mah battery was a beast in 2013.
The Note 2 was my favorite phone. The replaceable back with the cover option was the best. Want your phone to look brand new? That’ll only cost $20.
I never replaced the battery though.
My current device and the two before that all have had removable batteries. I’ve always thought built in batteries are stupid and it’s nice to finally notice that other people agree. Hopefully they next mandate that it has to be able to be taken apart with a screwdriver and spare parts must be able to be purchased straight from the manufacturer.
This needs to be true of notebooks too. I love my 2015 Macbook Air, but the battery lasts about five minutes and I use it way too much to take the time to get it replaced. Especially when it’s old enough to not be supported soon. But if I could just spend $50 and replace the battery myself without fucking things up, which I totally would as things stand now, I would be able to use it without keeping it plugged in all the time like I used to.
Good news, it applies to all battery operated devices, not just phones
Now will companies also offer this in the usa or will they have 2 models for sale
EU citizenship is a dream.
I think apple will comply by including a dongle battery that can be replaced but no one will actually carry with their phone
The law says, “Designing portable batteries in appliances in such a way that consumers can themselves easily remove and replace them;”
Key part being “in appliances”.
Not a bad idea but there are flaws and this also doesn’t seem to address the issue of pricing or availability.
The neat thing about EU regulations is that they are iterated over constantly, so even if they don’t get it 100% right the first time, they’re able to nail things down in subsequent iterations. Look at how quickly they struck down any fantasies Apple had of still fucking people over with their own type c implementation fuckery. The direction the EU is taking is already doing plenty good for the entire world.
They could start selling tiers of battery quality which TBH sounds awful if they make the best battery life duration paywalled.
Yeah, that’s possible. I’m more worried about a built in battery chip preventing users from sharing batteries, like once it’s installed, it’s activated and it’s locked to that device. Meaning you’d have to buy only from that manufacture and the price will be higher.
Pesky EU throwing their weight around giving consumers more rights! --Brexiteer logic
Oh well hopefully we’ll (UK) still benefit from it. Easier to design one phone than “EU” and “Rest of world” versions after all.
While I am for this, this could create more E waste. Now there will be companies producing more batteries as consumers can now swap out batteries. So it’s possible that tons of batteries now just sit on shelves for years and eventually end up going to waste.
Compared to currently having to replace the entire phone when the battery dies?
Yeah exactly, isn’t it causing way more E waste when people have to replace their phones every 3-5 years because of a battery only? Hopefully now in the future you can replace that battery and use your phone even longer. Resulting in only batteries being replaced which could probably be recycled somehow (I’m no expert on this, so no clue if what I’m saying is correct :P )
It depends on the amount of extra batteries that are made. In 2022, 225 million iPhones were sold. If an extra battery for every phone was produced, but only half of those consumers ever buy a new battery then we are looking at over 100 million wasted batteries. Then eventually all of those 225 million consumers would get a new phone anyways, so it still becomes waste at some point. I’m sure they will get better at predicting how many extra batteries to make eventually though. I do wonder how much it’s needed these days though. I get a new device every ~ 18 months but my spouse uses devices for ~ 5 years before getting a new one. She usually gets a new one just because of newer features, battery degradation doesn’t seem to be as much of an issue anymore.