NASA attempts to make conversations about aerial phenomena more scientific.
No evidence that UFOs are aliens — NASA attempts to make conversations about aerial phenomena more scientific::NASA attempts to make conversations about aerial phenomena more scientific.
Strong disagree. NASA is fundamentally a scientific organization, it’s absolutely their duty to bring a dose of scientific rationality to conversations about UFOs. And besides, NASA absolutely is studying aliens. They’re constantly doing observations of exoplanets for signs of life, as well as all the numerous missions across our solar system looking for non earth based life.
If people for some reason think that using some of the most advanced observation equipment ever developed to look for actual aliens is less exciting then tinfoiling over grainy video footage and talking about little green men, then that’s their own problem, not NASA’s. And giving into that kind of populism would just lead to public pressure on them to waste time and money chasing down conspiracies instead of doing actual science
Except those “dumb people” vote, and the people they vote for are the ones that determine which projects get funding and which don’t. I’d rather NASA continue to get funding for real science than getting all their funding funneled into investigating “tinfoil stuff”. NASA isn’t an autonomous organization, they ultimately can only do work on what congress gives them money to do
I’m sorry if this sounds like a conspiracy, but I think that China and the boys are really pushing UFO disclosure on social media to pressure the DOD into releasing classified aeronautics research on hypersonic missiles and specialized military satellites- Check out https://www.darpa.mil/ if you want to read more about what technology the military has currently.
I find it wild that people find explanation uninteresting and boring… Like, I get that it’s exciting to wonder and speculate about things, but I find getting real answers to be the most exciting. Expanding human knowledge is exciting, not boring.
As a child of an academic (although in the humanities), I would never have wanted my father or his colleagues to have been in charge of anything. Half of them were nuts anyway.
It contains admissions of their existence by the US government on multiple occasions and throughout multiple decades. I have included footage of UAP confirmed to be valid by our government, and a bunch of declassified government documents on the subject.
I don’t rule out the possibility of alien existence in the universe, and I don’t rule out that such entities could be responsible for the disruptive/breakthrough technology represented in UAP, but aliens and even the origin of UAP are irrelevant to whether or not the UAP themselves exist.
They do, and I have provided a tremendous amount of evidence supporting this from a rational and skeptical perspective.
And since the topic is being mislabeled as crazy Republicans, I’d like to point out I’m left-leaning and I’ve also included quotes and documentation of Democrats’ support of the topic, including Chuck Schumer and AOC. The truth is there is essentially unanimous support from the right and left in drafting UAP-related legislation. This is not a crazy conspiracy theory. It’s not like the anti-vaxxer lunacy. It is reality.
Everyone wants X Files but it’s just countries spying on each other and military experiments. Anything fantastical like the mummies are news spectacles meant to drum up publicity. There’s no reason why aliens would match cartoony depictions made up in science fiction. If actual aliens are here it basically means travelling faster than light is possible.
If actual aliens are here it basically means travelling faster than light is possible.
Not just possible, but dirt cheap, otherwise why would they be constantly dropping down into Earth to see what we’re up to.
Really, the whole notion is a bit silly when you think about it rationally. If a society was advanced to the point of cheap FTL (which, I feel the need to point out, isn’t just “advanced technology” but “technology that operates in complete defiance to our most fundamental understandings of physics”), why on earth would they be dipping into the actual atmosphere, doing landings, or flying by private aircraft? Surely a society with such breathtaking technology could drop a single spy satellite into orbit and get every piece of info they could possibly want about us, especially now that we’re in the digital age.
I have no doubt that alien life of some sort is out there, very possibly it’s even prolific (though that doesn’t seem to be the case based on our admittedly limited observations of exoplanets), but there’s no rational basis for thinking that an advanced alien society would have either the means, nor the motivation, to constantly pop down to earth to screw with pilots, farmers, etc.
I like to make up weird theories in my head about it not being aliens but alternate earth people. What if every time it is actually a first-time visitor not knowing what it’s like here. They don’t expect us to have anything capable of bringing their experimental craft down and we do, to their surprise. Hence they always have different looking craft, different looking bodies, etc.
Yes but you have to consider how long the government has made a mockery of the topic. Public opinion is still struggling with accepting that the ufos/uaps are actually real. Once they accept that they might start thinking about what it might be.
No, I’m pretty sure that is both being explored and talked about. People try to find natural explanations for these phenomena. Do you have a specific idea that should be talked about?
I had a hard time in another thread just convincing people that the subject of UAPs is worth any inquiry at all.
I am just chiming in because I feel that people who dismiss the topic in general will see this headline and say see nothing to see here case closed people who investigate this are crazy.
Whereas the phenomena is still very much present and should be investigated - for national security and aviation safety reasons at the very least.
I don’t think most people would say that UAPs shouldn’t be investigated. Look how much people freaked out over the Chinese spy balloon incident. The dismissal comes when people start to make baseless insinuations about extra terrestrial origin.
And FWIW, we absolutely do investigate UAPs (and by “we” I mean the government), again, it’s just in the context of “is this a foreign spy platform” not “is this a flying saucer”.
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Seems like a dumb pr move from them tbh. Everyone is more likely to give them money if everyone thinks that they’re studying aliens.
That doesn’t mean they should lie and say they are studying aliens, but they should have just let people run away with their imaginations.
Strong disagree. NASA is fundamentally a scientific organization, it’s absolutely their duty to bring a dose of scientific rationality to conversations about UFOs. And besides, NASA absolutely is studying aliens. They’re constantly doing observations of exoplanets for signs of life, as well as all the numerous missions across our solar system looking for non earth based life.
If people for some reason think that using some of the most advanced observation equipment ever developed to look for actual aliens is less exciting then tinfoiling over grainy video footage and talking about little green men, then that’s their own problem, not NASA’s. And giving into that kind of populism would just lead to public pressure on them to waste time and money chasing down conspiracies instead of doing actual science
Where did I say they should use their equipment for tinfoil stuff? I just said they should shut up and let dumb people give them money
Except those “dumb people” vote, and the people they vote for are the ones that determine which projects get funding and which don’t. I’d rather NASA continue to get funding for real science than getting all their funding funneled into investigating “tinfoil stuff”. NASA isn’t an autonomous organization, they ultimately can only do work on what congress gives them money to do
That’s fair. I retract my statement
I’m sorry if this sounds like a conspiracy, but I think that China and the boys are really pushing UFO disclosure on social media to pressure the DOD into releasing classified aeronautics research on hypersonic missiles and specialized military satellites- Check out https://www.darpa.mil/ if you want to read more about what technology the military has currently.
Plenty of conspiracy theories turned out to be true decades later.
Science… making everything boring like usual. Bring back the good ol’ inquisition and the crusades. Let’s spice this shit back up!
I don’t think science is boring at all. I eat up every new thing the Webb Telescope shows us.
Adjust the lens on the Webb to defect sarcasm, buddy.
I find it wild that people find explanation uninteresting and boring… Like, I get that it’s exciting to wonder and speculate about things, but I find getting real answers to be the most exciting. Expanding human knowledge is exciting, not boring.
Exactly! I don’t get it. Why don’t you want to learn new things? It’s like they feel that thinking is hard. Maybe that’s it?
I, for one welcome our Scientific overlords to our BoringEutopia
If you think scientific minds would be Eutopian overlords, you’ve never worked in academia.
As a child of an academic (although in the humanities), I would never have wanted my father or his colleagues to have been in charge of anything. Half of them were nuts anyway.
K obvs
If anyone is interested, I have posted a very detailed account of evidence supporting the existence of UAP (not aliens).
It contains admissions of their existence by the US government on multiple occasions and throughout multiple decades. I have included footage of UAP confirmed to be valid by our government, and a bunch of declassified government documents on the subject.
I don’t rule out the possibility of alien existence in the universe, and I don’t rule out that such entities could be responsible for the disruptive/breakthrough technology represented in UAP, but aliens and even the origin of UAP are irrelevant to whether or not the UAP themselves exist.
They do, and I have provided a tremendous amount of evidence supporting this from a rational and skeptical perspective.
And since the topic is being mislabeled as crazy Republicans, I’d like to point out I’m left-leaning and I’ve also included quotes and documentation of Democrats’ support of the topic, including Chuck Schumer and AOC. The truth is there is essentially unanimous support from the right and left in drafting UAP-related legislation. This is not a crazy conspiracy theory. It’s not like the anti-vaxxer lunacy. It is reality.
Everyone wants X Files but it’s just countries spying on each other and military experiments. Anything fantastical like the mummies are news spectacles meant to drum up publicity. There’s no reason why aliens would match cartoony depictions made up in science fiction. If actual aliens are here it basically means travelling faster than light is possible.
Not just possible, but dirt cheap, otherwise why would they be constantly dropping down into Earth to see what we’re up to.
Really, the whole notion is a bit silly when you think about it rationally. If a society was advanced to the point of cheap FTL (which, I feel the need to point out, isn’t just “advanced technology” but “technology that operates in complete defiance to our most fundamental understandings of physics”), why on earth would they be dipping into the actual atmosphere, doing landings, or flying by private aircraft? Surely a society with such breathtaking technology could drop a single spy satellite into orbit and get every piece of info they could possibly want about us, especially now that we’re in the digital age.
I have no doubt that alien life of some sort is out there, very possibly it’s even prolific (though that doesn’t seem to be the case based on our admittedly limited observations of exoplanets), but there’s no rational basis for thinking that an advanced alien society would have either the means, nor the motivation, to constantly pop down to earth to screw with pilots, farmers, etc.
I like to make up weird theories in my head about it not being aliens but alternate earth people. What if every time it is actually a first-time visitor not knowing what it’s like here. They don’t expect us to have anything capable of bringing their experimental craft down and we do, to their surprise. Hence they always have different looking craft, different looking bodies, etc.
Not because of the species, but because of the rare and unique planet?
What, only homosapiens can troll others?
“We don’t know what it is there for aliens” makes as much sense as “We don’t know where it all comes from therefore God”
The thing we aren’t exploring or talking about in mainstream discourse is that UAPs might be terrestrial and non-human.
Yes but you have to consider how long the government has made a mockery of the topic. Public opinion is still struggling with accepting that the ufos/uaps are actually real. Once they accept that they might start thinking about what it might be.
No, I’m pretty sure that is both being explored and talked about. People try to find natural explanations for these phenomena. Do you have a specific idea that should be talked about?
I had a hard time in another thread just convincing people that the subject of UAPs is worth any inquiry at all.
I am just chiming in because I feel that people who dismiss the topic in general will see this headline and say see nothing to see here case closed people who investigate this are crazy.
Whereas the phenomena is still very much present and should be investigated - for national security and aviation safety reasons at the very least.
I don’t think most people would say that UAPs shouldn’t be investigated. Look how much people freaked out over the Chinese spy balloon incident. The dismissal comes when people start to make baseless insinuations about extra terrestrial origin.
And FWIW, we absolutely do investigate UAPs (and by “we” I mean the government), again, it’s just in the context of “is this a foreign spy platform” not “is this a flying saucer”.