So what I’ve gleaned is: Altman was grooming people to start a new, proprietary company and wasn’t telling the board of the non-profit, so they fired him, predictably enough. Some of the people he was prepping to jump ship are now going to follow him. The board is seeing the potential exodus of key people and is willing to let him make OpenAI into the for-profit outfit he wants so now they’re talking to him in that direction because they’ll probably have nothing left if they don’t.
That hasn’t been confirmed at all. No one from the board has commented even anonymously as far as I’ve seen. This is a play by Altman and his supporters to try and influence public opinion and make the board seem incompetent.
Maybe. Allegedly MS is throwing their weight around to try to force it, which does seem plausible.
Though I hope the board stands firm.
Ilya is much more valuable long term to the company than Altman, and frankly the latter leaving is the first time in about a year I’ve been bullish about OpenAI’s prospects.
They really walked their core product back in the past few months despite expanding their productization of it towards low hanging short-term fruit.
Ilya’s vision is spot on with where transformers are headed as complexity increases, and is one of the only scientists I’ve seen that really sees that horizon.
If Altman was standing in the way of getting there, it’s better that he’s gone.
Ilya had seemed to be more of the closed corporate yes man, more interested in profit paths than open ethical development, as evidenced by his various appearances when unfiltereed questions have been allowed. That’s not an improvement over Altman.
Also, being right about the tech doesn’t mean you will be successful. You have to balance short term wins with long term gains. Often engineers and technical folks struggle with that process because it often means compromising theor utopian ideals in the short term.
I think it’s short sighted to dismiss Sam’s contribution to their success and amplify Ilyas.
I agree with you overall though I will say that MS throwing their weight around is really just a lot of hot air at the end of the day. They don’t have a board seat and they were told from the start that their invest should be seen as more of an investment. The non-profit is in control and MS can’t change that.
Didn’t you fan boys learn after Elon? Altman is not something I’d recommend idolizing. From his crypto BS, to his preper stuff (saying he will survive in the apocalypse… sure), to the stuff his sister is saying he did to her, to his general doucheyness, to his attempts at regulatory capture…
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So what I’ve gleaned is: Altman was grooming people to start a new, proprietary company and wasn’t telling the board of the non-profit, so they fired him, predictably enough. Some of the people he was prepping to jump ship are now going to follow him. The board is seeing the potential exodus of key people and is willing to let him make OpenAI into the for-profit outfit he wants so now they’re talking to him in that direction because they’ll probably have nothing left if they don’t.
He must be laughing so hard now… :-)
That hasn’t been confirmed at all. No one from the board has commented even anonymously as far as I’ve seen. This is a play by Altman and his supporters to try and influence public opinion and make the board seem incompetent.
Maybe. Allegedly MS is throwing their weight around to try to force it, which does seem plausible.
Though I hope the board stands firm.
Ilya is much more valuable long term to the company than Altman, and frankly the latter leaving is the first time in about a year I’ve been bullish about OpenAI’s prospects.
They really walked their core product back in the past few months despite expanding their productization of it towards low hanging short-term fruit.
Ilya’s vision is spot on with where transformers are headed as complexity increases, and is one of the only scientists I’ve seen that really sees that horizon.
If Altman was standing in the way of getting there, it’s better that he’s gone.
Ilya had seemed to be more of the closed corporate yes man, more interested in profit paths than open ethical development, as evidenced by his various appearances when unfiltereed questions have been allowed. That’s not an improvement over Altman.
What is ilyas vision?
Also, being right about the tech doesn’t mean you will be successful. You have to balance short term wins with long term gains. Often engineers and technical folks struggle with that process because it often means compromising theor utopian ideals in the short term.
I think it’s short sighted to dismiss Sam’s contribution to their success and amplify Ilyas.
I agree with you overall though I will say that MS throwing their weight around is really just a lot of hot air at the end of the day. They don’t have a board seat and they were told from the start that their invest should be seen as more of an investment. The non-profit is in control and MS can’t change that.
No, but they are allegedly threatening to bar OpenAI from Azure, and you can’t be a leading AI company these days without access to supercomputers.
Maybe, but then it’s a genius move, and he can still laugh at them.
All the world was quite busy with learning the name ‘OpenAI’ during the last months. But OpenAI is history.
The world is learning the name ‘Sam Altman’ now.
This made me throw up in my mouth a little bit.
Didn’t you fan boys learn after Elon? Altman is not something I’d recommend idolizing. From his crypto BS, to his preper stuff (saying he will survive in the apocalypse… sure), to the stuff his sister is saying he did to her, to his general doucheyness, to his attempts at regulatory capture…
SMH do we really have to do this god-emperor thing with every single dude who gets a little bit of fame in the business world
I do not say we should, or we shouldn’t.
But it’s obvious that it happens, and soon he’s going to secure his next few billions from it.
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