Science is what is, which requires nor benefits from belief. Adding a belief layer is interpreting, exploitable, and leads to believing untrue things as true (Science).

Reduced Logical Form: I believe what is (true) = Oxymoron

Oxymoron: A rhetorical figure in which incongruous or contradictory terms are combined

Explainer: It is impossible to believe what is true.


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Question: 1 - Is it true or false?

Hint: Is/must/can the number/digit/integer 1 (one) be boolean in [all] cases? What are the conditions in which 1 is false?

Test from OCaml: if 1 then true else false;;

Theorem Pseudocode: if (1 = true) && (2 = 1 + 1) && (2 = true && true) then [true +& true +& …] = true else nothing else matters

Note my recursive application to all other numbers/physics and inference that if 1 is not true, nothing is true

Postulation: All positive integers are true

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I have no idea what you’re trying to say here. You’d need to define terms better at the very least. What do you mean by true, what do you mean by believe etc.

As to the psuedo code, as far as I know, the boolean equivalence to 1 in many programming languages is just a convenience and not some law of nature or core basis of philosophy.

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The terms belief and true seem to be self-evident and I’m trying to frame this to spur brainstorming about why they aren’t congrous. Belief usually goes along with Religion, as in, there is small/little proof, but one may chose to believe it or not. Where true I could say is impervious to belief. It exists whether you believe in it or not.

Stated another way, 1 + 1 = 2 is true. Is there anything there to believe or not believe? I’m breaking that down into just 1.

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Belief is just what you personally think is true, there is no universal concept of true, even things that the majority of people believe to be true are not necessarily universally agreed upon. Even something as basic as 1 + 1 == 2 might not be believed by some people. There is no accepted universal arbiter of truth. When people say they believe in science they mean that they recognize the scientific process as the best way we have found to determine what is true in our reality.

Take as an example that the Earth is an approximate sphere. Most people agree that this is true and therefore believe this. But there also exist people who do not believe this, that argue it is not true. They do not believe it. What is true is not agreed upon. These people have a fundamentally different perception of reality. Those that believe in science trust in the systems and methods of the scientific process and therefore when such systems tell us that the Earth is in fact a slightly flattened spheroid we accept that as a truth. That is what it means to believe in science.

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Double Perspective: 1 is the truest darn thing I can conceive of. In fact, if we can’t count on 1 being true, we can count on anything.

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In Unix shell scripts 1 is false, so there’s that

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This is just being pedantic and insufferable. Everyone knows what is meant when we say we “believe in science”. Science cannot be insulted by people believing in it. The belief part exists in the human brain and understanding. The belief part is in trusting teachers and authorities on science and math. Science itself is not impacted by the belief or lack thereof. But the human is. Posts like this just make you look like an obtuse robot who thinks a MENSA membership is very cool.

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While being the very thing you accuse me of, pedantic and insufferable, the often used Phrase is demonstrably wrong and is used in a way so as to be coercive. Your mind wandering rant including teachers and authorities in Science is laughable and gives you away.

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Burying my post in misinformed, spiteful, authoritative comments and votes. This is such a well-formed and intelligent unique thought-form and most importantly, not News. I was hoping for enlightened responses, even disagreeable ones. That way a productive discussion could be had!

China is using the world’s largest known online disinformation operation to harass Americans, a CNN review finds

Inside the British Army’s secret information warfare machine They are soldiers, but the 77th Brigade edit videos, record podcasts and write viral posts. Welcome to the age of information warfare

etc, etc.

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Are we trying to add unnecessary mysticism to conveniently useful things? 0 is just as truthy in reality as 1 or any other value in any imaginable base. That we typically assign zero to be false in most programming languages and assign one or all positive integers or all positive numbers or all numbers or all non-zero values including NaN to be true is irrelevant, and doesn’t help illuminate anything. I’m either misunderstanding this post completely, or this is just a bunch of pseudoscientific horse manure.

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Since no mysticism was used, but logical proofs and pseudocode, then meandering to 0 (funny double meaning there), I’m gonna go with you misunderstanding it completely.

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