It depends on how “friendly” they decide it has to be to replace the battery.
The battery in my iPhone 13 Pro is certainly end-user replaceable, but it’s significantly more difficult than it was for me to pop the battery out of my Galaxy S2 and put a new one in.
Great! This “water-resistance” bullshit is the biggest bigtech scam ever, it’s insane how they almost killed repairability in the name of “water-resistance”, that scam should have never been allowed.
I love water resistance. You don’t need to get rid of water resistance for removal batteries, we had both, together, at the same time, before. Samsung s5 active.
As an owner of an S5 and S5 active, I had to say that I loved those phones.
It’s 100% imperative that some of the people in my circle have waterproof phones. My BIL sat down in the lake and forgot he had put his phone in his swim trunks pocket. Instakill.
The companies should try making water resistant devices. But the repairability or ease of changing batteries should not be neglected. Maybe another model that is a bit further expensive, covering the cost of making it water tight, should be also sold?
So the 2027 iPhone should have USB-C and a removable battery as long as it’s bought in the EU. Luckily they’re all unlocked and it’s only 35 minutes on the train from England to France. Guess I’ll be getting my phones from France from 2027.
Sooo I totally get the appeal, but I actually don’t want removable batteries. Like the everyday benefit of a thinner, more water/dust proof phone is much useful to me than the annoyance of having to take my phone in to get serviced once every three to four years.
Yeah it seems kinda pointless to me at least. I’m still gonna end up going with a battery from the phone manufacturer anyways and it will probably cost the same as getting them to replace it for me. Like I don’t want to trust 3rd party batteries with an expensive phone at this point.
Thickness and weight might have been a serious issue 10 years ago but batteries have reached such high energy densities that the additional volume/weight becomes negligible especially considering how thin most phones already are.
lol I saw someone else last year complaining about GDPR because they thought clicking cookie banners was annoying. But it’s like… don’t be mad at GDPR for making you click banners that warn you about invasive practices, be mad at the fact that the invasive practices are allowed in the first place.
First-party cookies, yes, third-party cookies, no. There are good cookies and there are bad cookies. CookieSlayers is a directory focused on good cookies.
I’m probably in the minority, but I’ll take slimmer, lighter and better sealed over user replaceable batteries. I’ve been using iPhones since changing from Androids to a iPhone 7, primarily because of getting tired of UIs changing constantly and not getting updates after a year or two. I know Samsung and Pixel phones do better with the updates now, but I think this would be more relevant to legislate about, instead of battery replacement.
I know it doesn’t sound as much, but it’s one example and it is still 1.5mm thicker than my iPhone and ip67 instead of ip68. If it turns out, I have nothing to worry about then great, but atm I know what I have and gain nothing from user replaceable batteries as I’ve never had a phone/iPad where I wanted to change the battery. Others may prefer differently.
Is it possible, by having a removable battery, our phone won’t be as water resistant as it is now? I love that my phone is water resistant. I have a couple of water related accidents of my phone for at least two times. One happened on a not water resistant device. If I can choose between removable battery and water resistance, I’d choose water resistance all the time. I am changing my phone every 2 years anyway.
There are, and always has been, waterproof devices with replaceable batteries. Phone manufacturers love that they can lie and say that a removable battery affects waterproofing. By making the battery hard to remove, and some other tricks, they make the phone less repairable. They then can convince consumers that they need to replace their phone every 18-24 months.
The only reason to replace your phone every two years is that you want the new shiny. All other reasons are artificial, marketing garbage created by manufactures who profit off of creating e-waste.
There seem to be different target/goals based on the applicance/vehicle type. The title is a bit terse on this post but it’s obviously the most catchy, so I get it. EV’s would fall into the group needing to have some recycled content in them. From the article:
The regulation provides for mandatory minimum levels of recycled content for industrial, SLI batteries and EV batteries. These are initially set at 16% for cobalt, 85% for lead, 6% for lithium and 6% for nickel. Batteries will have to hold a recycled content documentation.
and they will be aaaall proprietary. one battery per phone model. and companies still will release updates that will cripple the phone every 2 years. nothing will change
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“The regulation provides that by 2027 portable batteries incorporated into appliances should be removable and replaceable by the end-user”
By the end user! Oh shit, nice one!
It depends on how “friendly” they decide it has to be to replace the battery.
The battery in my iPhone 13 Pro is certainly end-user replaceable, but it’s significantly more difficult than it was for me to pop the battery out of my Galaxy S2 and put a new one in.
Great! This “water-resistance” bullshit is the biggest bigtech scam ever, it’s insane how they almost killed repairability in the name of “water-resistance”, that scam should have never been allowed.
I love water resistance. You don’t need to get rid of water resistance for removal batteries, we had both, together, at the same time, before. Samsung s5 active.
My phones are constantly wet (not like that, degenerates) and IP68 has saved me more money than repairability.
As an owner of an S5 and S5 active, I had to say that I loved those phones.
It’s 100% imperative that some of the people in my circle have waterproof phones. My BIL sat down in the lake and forgot he had put his phone in his swim trunks pocket. Instakill.
I am pretty sure there were water resistant S class Samsungs with snapon back covers. Around 5th/6th generation.
The companies should try making water resistant devices. But the repairability or ease of changing batteries should not be neglected. Maybe another model that is a bit further expensive, covering the cost of making it water tight, should be also sold?
So the 2027 iPhone should have USB-C and a removable battery as long as it’s bought in the EU. Luckily they’re all unlocked and it’s only 35 minutes on the train from England to France. Guess I’ll be getting my phones from France from 2027.
If this become the outcome, I will definitely return back to Apple & be an new happy owner of the next iPhone.
they might just go pure wireless too to avoid USB-C. Not sure how the are going to do with the battery, but there will be some trick.
As long as I don’t have to keep a lightning cable just for my phone I’ll be happy. Everything else I have is USB-C.
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I hope not too but if they do I’ll be hopping over the channel for French one.
It’ll also have third party apps. Wondering how hard it would be to import a European iphone into the US.
I’m not convinced of the benefits of allowing third party apps on the iPhone. I used to have a Galaxy and the store was full of shovelware.
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Sooo I totally get the appeal, but I actually don’t want removable batteries. Like the everyday benefit of a thinner, more water/dust proof phone is much useful to me than the annoyance of having to take my phone in to get serviced once every three to four years.
Yeah it seems kinda pointless to me at least. I’m still gonna end up going with a battery from the phone manufacturer anyways and it will probably cost the same as getting them to replace it for me. Like I don’t want to trust 3rd party batteries with an expensive phone at this point.
Thickness and weight might have been a serious issue 10 years ago but batteries have reached such high energy densities that the additional volume/weight becomes negligible especially considering how thin most phones already are.
It’s not really the battery thickness that is the issue it’s the docking mechanism that has to be robust enough for real world usage.
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Honestly, the EU’s where it’s at.
Invest in your people, and you’ll go far.
I love clicking to accept cookies so I can see the bottom portion of a website
lol I saw someone else last year complaining about GDPR because they thought clicking cookie banners was annoying. But it’s like… don’t be mad at GDPR for making you click banners that warn you about invasive practices, be mad at the fact that the invasive practices are allowed in the first place.
I actually run a directory of companies and products that don’t use invasive tracking cookies called CookieSlayers in an effort to make people aware of better alternatives, and ultimately build a better web. Feel free to contribute to it.
Cookies are not invasive, you need them to log in to websites
First-party cookies, yes, third-party cookies, no. There are good cookies and there are bad cookies. CookieSlayers is a directory focused on good cookies.
I have all third party cookies blocked at the browser level, GDPR or no GDPR
That’s good, although it shouldn’t have to fall to you (the consumer) to do that.
It shouldn’t fall on me to click cookie banners either
Hell yea!
I’m probably in the minority, but I’ll take slimmer, lighter and better sealed over user replaceable batteries. I’ve been using iPhones since changing from Androids to a iPhone 7, primarily because of getting tired of UIs changing constantly and not getting updates after a year or two. I know Samsung and Pixel phones do better with the updates now, but I think this would be more relevant to legislate about, instead of battery replacement.
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I know it doesn’t sound as much, but it’s one example and it is still 1.5mm thicker than my iPhone and ip67 instead of ip68. If it turns out, I have nothing to worry about then great, but atm I know what I have and gain nothing from user replaceable batteries as I’ve never had a phone/iPad where I wanted to change the battery. Others may prefer differently.
Is it possible, by having a removable battery, our phone won’t be as water resistant as it is now? I love that my phone is water resistant. I have a couple of water related accidents of my phone for at least two times. One happened on a not water resistant device. If I can choose between removable battery and water resistance, I’d choose water resistance all the time. I am changing my phone every 2 years anyway.
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my gopro never had an issue
There are, and always has been, waterproof devices with replaceable batteries. Phone manufacturers love that they can lie and say that a removable battery affects waterproofing. By making the battery hard to remove, and some other tricks, they make the phone less repairable. They then can convince consumers that they need to replace their phone every 18-24 months.
The only reason to replace your phone every two years is that you want the new shiny. All other reasons are artificial, marketing garbage created by manufactures who profit off of creating e-waste.
Including cars?
There seem to be different target/goals based on the applicance/vehicle type. The title is a bit terse on this post but it’s obviously the most catchy, so I get it. EV’s would fall into the group needing to have some recycled content in them. From the article:
The regulation provides for mandatory minimum levels of recycled content for industrial, SLI batteries and EV batteries. These are initially set at 16% for cobalt, 85% for lead, 6% for lithium and 6% for nickel. Batteries will have to hold a recycled content documentation.
EU is the only government body in the world that does something meaningful for the average consumer.
🙌
They will just find other ways to suppress “the right to repair” as its never been about batteries specifically
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and they will be aaaall proprietary. one battery per phone model. and companies still will release updates that will cripple the phone every 2 years. nothing will change
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Common EU W
Based EU