Windows 11 now supports USB4 at 80Gbps, also known as USB4 2.0
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With the latest public update, Windows 11 has gained support for USB4 connections at 80Gbps, also known as USB4 2.0. The upgrade comes with OS builds 22621.3235...

Windows 11 now supports USB4 at 80Gbps, also known as USB 4 2.0 | Faster USB4 devices could start appearing in 2024::undefined

Great.

Can we start having enforceable standards for the fucking cables?

@bigkahuna1986@lemmy.ml
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No, but I can get you USB4.1 Gen 3x3

Jonathan
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“USB 4 2.0”… someone should really do something about the incredibly goofy naming scheme.

So universal

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I know, it is a never ending source of minor comedy that “Universal” is right there in the name.

Dammit elon. The 420 ‘jokes’ aren’t as funny as you think they are. /s.

*rolls usb 4 2.0

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If I learned anything then it‘s to trust manufacturers to sleep on this for the coming years until Microsoft stops supporting old USB completely or something.

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These are all equivalent, which is dumb as fuck:

  • 3.0 / 3.1 Gen 1 / 3.2 Gen 1
  • 3.1 Gen 2 / 3.2 Gen 2 / 3.2 Gen 2x1

I suspect the corporations that influence USB did this specifically to confuse consumers (increase sales) when they could have told them exactly what they were getting e.g:

  • USB3 5Gb
  • USB3 10Gb
  • USB4 500Mb/100w
  • USB4 20Gb/100w
  • USB4 40Gb/20w
  • USB4 80Gb/240w

The jump from 3 to 4 could’ve indicated the change to USB-C ports, which should be the greatest breaking change for USB (otherwise it’s no longer USB). The “/Xw” could’ve been used to indicate PD max watts.

This can also continue indefinitely, like “USB4 10Tb/500w”, “USB5 5Pb/2kw”, etc.

What I’d really like to see are regulations that require manufacturers to specify the actual speeds the specific component(s) model/batch have achieved under real world testing — both best case scenario and averages — as the theoretical limit is completely irrelevant; with wild variation between cables of the same specs.

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Actually the naming scheme you propose e.g. USB4 80Gb is the real naming scheme! It’s officially what the specification demands manufacturers label their products. “USB4 version 2” and so on are explicitly only the names of the internal standards that only concern people writing drivers or designing chips.

I have no idea what tech journalist are smoking. This has been a problems for so many years but they keep using the internal names. I mean nobody is complaining about having to always say “IEEE 802.11bn” instead of WI-FI 8

Lol. Can’t say I’m surprised. But why do you blame tech journalists instead of the manufacturers and marketers who promote their products using internal spec names?

I just looked at the last 5 USB enclosures and cables I bought. All of the boxes and marketing display the internal spec name prominently. 3/5 boxes only mention the speed once, as a bullet point in the features section…

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