This will have been drawn from the work of Erin Reed
Though its worth noting her only firm, DO NOT TRAVEL, so far, is florida. Though the rest are of course still dangerous.
Cajun is A level, but let’s not pretend the south has a monopoly on BBQ and Fried Chicken in the same way as Louisiana and Cajun. And when it comes to southern seafood, Maryland is right there on the map.
Fine. You get one city and the rest is wasteland. Now lie to my face and tell me that your flyover state small town has options beyond traditional diner and pizza.
Those are probably true but ‘left behind’ people make bad choices at the ballot box. We kind of had this in the UK where all the poorest constituencies in the North of England voted for brexit.
Like chicken and egg. Do bad voters give you bad policy or does bad policy give you bad voters? It is morbidly fascinating to watch people who have so little figuring out ways to have even less.
Shit, I’m as lucky as they come, straight white male, and I don’t want to visit any of the missing states, except for Savannah, Georgia, which is just a nice time.
Upstate NY probably not so Trans friendly either, but always gets lumped in with NYC. It’s really a wasteland outside of maybe the finger lakes region. Saratoga/Lake George are all right too.
I’m sorry, but honestly this reads like someone who lives in a bit of a bubble. Essentially every state has bigger cities filled with LGBT people who live there fine.
I just watched a video about Utah and apparently Mormons are pretty tolerant of just about everyone and even though it’s a red state they’re pretty progressive on social issues.
Take with a grain of salt, my source is a YouTube video.
Utah teen lgbtqia+ suicide rate is very high. I’ve got a friend who is a therapist out there and i do not envy them. The Mormon church tries to say that they love and accept everyone but if you push them they will clarify they can love someone but they hate the sin. Ask yourself, how can you love someone when you can’t accept a fundamental part of them? If you practice your gayness/etc you will be treated differently by Mormon church standards. You will lose out on church privileges and be ostracized.
Apparently, Utah can be added to this. Though they vote overwhelmingly Republican they are surprisingly supportive of lgbtq rights , at least according to a video I saw yesterday.
I think it was called Why is Utah Weird? I think Bobbybroccoli did it.
Anyone from Utah with a different experience, please correct me so I don’t spread any more disinformation.
Edit: Just read down about 30 comments and apparently I was gaslit by a YouTube video. Whoduhthunk?
The video was well researched and overall a very good description of life in salt lake, less so in other counties like st George. As he said in the video 80% of the population resides in “the valley”, and he didn’t really concern himself with the rest of the state. I also wouldn’t choose to live in Provo or Spanish Fork as a queer person despite them being in the valley, but I wouldn’t consider them dangerous or actively hide it there.
That would have been from the channel ~~Half as Interesting for anyone… Interested. ~~ Wendover Productions. My bad - Half as Interesting is front he same people, but shorter-form content.
Yeah no… They have bathroom bills that require you to have appropriate sex change documents. It’s one of the spots bathroom gestapo check your papers. Also trans care for youth has been banned and 4 anti trans bills have passed in the 1st quarter of 2024…Utah ain’t safe gov’ner.
I really wish my friends and family would understand this. This is something that I have to worry about, all of the time. It causes me constant and immense stress.
“I would not be welcome here if they knew.” - this is what I have to be aware of, all of the time. I do volunteer work and often drive out to rural areas - stopping at gas stations where they’d leer at me if I wore a mask inside 2 years ago… - am I safe if I get pulled over?
I’ve sat at workplace trainings and heard the things that they think about people like me - debating on if there’s a way that I can say something that won’t call attention to myself. I turn on the news or scroll through Facebook and see an endless stream of debates on whether or not I should exist.
All I want is to inject myself with testosterone (which my insurance does not pay for). I want my drivers license to say M. I wanted, and paid for, a mastectomy. Testosterone makes me strong enough to carry folding tables for homeless shelters. It helps me turn my anger into energy. It helps me exist.
I don’t understand why that bothers people so much. No one gave a shit ten years ago. My Pentecostal family were happy to call me their son. Trans people are just a convenient boogey man as part of a long term backlash strategy against gay and women’s rights.
I appreciate the response, but can you give specifics? I would have figured NH would have committed to the whole “leave me alone” vibe, but it sounds like not. Have they been passing anti-trans legislation or something similar?
Unfortunately, not all of our states are safe. While the population centers are mostly ok, there are plenty of places that are not safe. I had an acquaintance (gay) describe Eastern Washington as “fine as long as I don’t act too gay”.
Yes you’re sadly absolutely right. I live in Oregon these days and the PDX area is quite nice but if you go south east, it is like you describe with eastern WA.
Piece of shits have to have their bigoted safe-spaces i guess
People may not like the weather in Chicago, but it’s not that bad, the summers are generally pleasant, winters are tolerable if you dress appropriately, we have a nice lake nearby, four seasons, and the people here are sane, practical midwesterners. Why are people going to Arizona with decreasing available water, where the Republicans want to pass hunting migrants for sport ( https://www.nbcnews.com/news/latino/arizona-bill-shoot-kill-migrants-property-trespass-border-rcna141147 ) if they cross your property? Why are they going to build tens of billions of dollars of semiconductor fabs in Phoenix ( https://www.ft.com/content/d0fe3dda-7ea4-4d37-9564-71a129b9002f ) in a place with declining water? Are the tax breaks really worth it?
The Arizona GOP is batshit insane and they’re slowly losing their grip on the state because of it. The only reason Sinema was there to block the federal minimum wage law was because she ran a very progressive campaign. (And the state held a grudge so hard she’s not even trying for another term) Katie Hobbs is governor now and Adrian Fontes is the SoS. They aren’t going to swing back anytime soon and those insane bills are not going to make it past the governor’s veto.
That said, just like anywhere in the west, be aware that much of the rural area is fueling that radical GOP branch. But Phoenix metro area, Tucson metro area, Flagstaff, Camp Verde, Winslow, Prescott, and Williams were fine when I live there ~5 years ago. Except Sedona. Everyone wants to go to Sedona to see the red rocks. You will be seeing them from your car in the eternal traffic jam that is Sedona. Go to the Grand Canyon instead, it’s better anyways.
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It sucks but those other states don’t matter. Culinary wastelands full of poorly run operations. They had some nature but they paved it over.
Culinary wastelands? Cajun/Creole cuisine is some of the best this country offers. Barbecue. Fried chicken. Come on now.
Cajun is A level, but let’s not pretend the south has a monopoly on BBQ and Fried Chicken in the same way as Louisiana and Cajun. And when it comes to southern seafood, Maryland is right there on the map.
Fine. You get one city and the rest is wasteland. Now lie to my face and tell me that your flyover state small town has options beyond traditional diner and pizza.
Those are probably true but ‘left behind’ people make bad choices at the ballot box. We kind of had this in the UK where all the poorest constituencies in the North of England voted for brexit.
Like chicken and egg. Do bad voters give you bad policy or does bad policy give you bad voters? It is morbidly fascinating to watch people who have so little figuring out ways to have even less.
Shit, I’m as lucky as they come, straight white male, and I don’t want to visit any of the missing states, except for Savannah, Georgia, which is just a nice time.
Upstate NY probably not so Trans friendly either, but always gets lumped in with NYC. It’s really a wasteland outside of maybe the finger lakes region. Saratoga/Lake George are all right too.
Upstate NY is also pretty pointless. You get to the TPZ bridge and best turn around.
I’m sorry, but honestly this reads like someone who lives in a bit of a bubble. Essentially every state has bigger cities filled with LGBT people who live there fine.
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Yeah this map would have much smaller areas. If you broke it down into safe counties or something
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I think it would prob be a population density map. Higher populations like cities tend to be better at accepting people (massively generalizing)
I just watched a video about Utah and apparently Mormons are pretty tolerant of just about everyone and even though it’s a red state they’re pretty progressive on social issues.
Take with a grain of salt, my source is a YouTube video.
Edit: I was misinformed lmao
I too watched that Half as Interesting/Wendover productions video, that’s not what it said. In fact he explicitly said that’s not what he’s saying.
To be fair I watched it at a taco bell on my lunch break
Lol, fair
Lmao, good one. 🤣 The Mormons contributed over three-quarters of the funding to get Prop 8 passed in California.
https://www.theatlantic.com/daily-dish/archive/2008/10/the-mormon-money-behind-proposition-8/209748/
There is a reason why I don’t mention that I am an atheist when I travel to Utah.
Christianity is all about being tolerant actually. Its just that most Christians dont care
You got gaslit
https://www.thetrevorproject.org/wp-content/uploads/2022/12/The-Trevor-Project-2022-National-Survey-on-LGBTQ-Youth-Mental-Health-by-State-Utah.pdf
Utah teen lgbtqia+ suicide rate is very high. I’ve got a friend who is a therapist out there and i do not envy them. The Mormon church tries to say that they love and accept everyone but if you push them they will clarify they can love someone but they hate the sin. Ask yourself, how can you love someone when you can’t accept a fundamental part of them? If you practice your gayness/etc you will be treated differently by Mormon church standards. You will lose out on church privileges and be ostracized.
I saw the same video, thanks for the correction before I started spreading this false fact.
Certainly as important as the green book!
I may not be trans, but I’m brown, this helps too.
Apparently, Utah can be added to this. Though they vote overwhelmingly Republican they are surprisingly supportive of lgbtq rights , at least according to a video I saw yesterday.
I think it was called Why is Utah Weird? I think Bobbybroccoli did it.
Anyone from Utah with a different experience, please correct me so I don’t spread any more disinformation.
Edit: Just read down about 30 comments and apparently I was gaslit by a YouTube video. Whoduhthunk?
The video was well researched and overall a very good description of life in salt lake, less so in other counties like st George. As he said in the video 80% of the population resides in “the valley”, and he didn’t really concern himself with the rest of the state. I also wouldn’t choose to live in Provo or Spanish Fork as a queer person despite them being in the valley, but I wouldn’t consider them dangerous or actively hide it there.
That would have been from the channel ~~Half as Interesting for anyone… Interested. ~~ Wendover Productions. My bad - Half as Interesting is front he same people, but shorter-form content.
Yeah no… They have bathroom bills that require you to have appropriate sex change documents. It’s one of the spots bathroom gestapo check your papers. Also trans care for youth has been banned and 4 anti trans bills have passed in the 1st quarter of 2024…Utah ain’t safe gov’ner.
I really wish my friends and family would understand this. This is something that I have to worry about, all of the time. It causes me constant and immense stress.
“I would not be welcome here if they knew.” - this is what I have to be aware of, all of the time. I do volunteer work and often drive out to rural areas - stopping at gas stations where they’d leer at me if I wore a mask inside 2 years ago… - am I safe if I get pulled over?
I’ve sat at workplace trainings and heard the things that they think about people like me - debating on if there’s a way that I can say something that won’t call attention to myself. I turn on the news or scroll through Facebook and see an endless stream of debates on whether or not I should exist.
All I want is to inject myself with testosterone (which my insurance does not pay for). I want my drivers license to say M. I wanted, and paid for, a mastectomy. Testosterone makes me strong enough to carry folding tables for homeless shelters. It helps me turn my anger into energy. It helps me exist.
I don’t understand why that bothers people so much. No one gave a shit ten years ago. My Pentecostal family were happy to call me their son. Trans people are just a convenient boogey man as part of a long term backlash strategy against gay and women’s rights.
What did NH do?
NH is a “Live free or die” kind of state….dying seems to be what they are doing these days because they sure as fuck are not living free….
I appreciate the response, but can you give specifics? I would have figured NH would have committed to the whole “leave me alone” vibe, but it sounds like not. Have they been passing anti-trans legislation or something similar?
Not in that sense, but that they are absent on this list. They also have not legalized weed like the rest of the northeast.
I like to poke at their state slogan :)
All LGBT are safe and welcomed in Oregon and Massachusetts, my two home states in my life :)
I love living in blue states that value people and their rights
Unfortunately, not all of our states are safe. While the population centers are mostly ok, there are plenty of places that are not safe. I had an acquaintance (gay) describe Eastern Washington as “fine as long as I don’t act too gay”.
Yes you’re sadly absolutely right. I live in Oregon these days and the PDX area is quite nice but if you go south east, it is like you describe with eastern WA.
Piece of shits have to have their bigoted safe-spaces i guess
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That’s great. I’m really glad to hear it. It’s not that they don’t exist. It’s that they are subject to violence under the law.
People may not like the weather in Chicago, but it’s not that bad, the summers are generally pleasant, winters are tolerable if you dress appropriately, we have a nice lake nearby, four seasons, and the people here are sane, practical midwesterners. Why are people going to Arizona with decreasing available water, where the Republicans want to pass hunting migrants for sport ( https://www.nbcnews.com/news/latino/arizona-bill-shoot-kill-migrants-property-trespass-border-rcna141147 ) if they cross your property? Why are they going to build tens of billions of dollars of semiconductor fabs in Phoenix ( https://www.ft.com/content/d0fe3dda-7ea4-4d37-9564-71a129b9002f ) in a place with declining water? Are the tax breaks really worth it?
The Arizona GOP is batshit insane and they’re slowly losing their grip on the state because of it. The only reason Sinema was there to block the federal minimum wage law was because she ran a very progressive campaign. (And the state held a grudge so hard she’s not even trying for another term) Katie Hobbs is governor now and Adrian Fontes is the SoS. They aren’t going to swing back anytime soon and those insane bills are not going to make it past the governor’s veto.
That said, just like anywhere in the west, be aware that much of the rural area is fueling that radical GOP branch. But Phoenix metro area, Tucson metro area, Flagstaff, Camp Verde, Winslow, Prescott, and Williams were fine when I live there ~5 years ago. Except Sedona. Everyone wants to go to Sedona to see the red rocks. You will be seeing them from your car in the eternal traffic jam that is Sedona. Go to the Grand Canyon instead, it’s better anyways.
I think you missed the trans part