Upgrading your business from Windows 10 may be costlier than you expect
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$61 for most folks, $45 for people using Microsoft Intune or Windows Autopatch.

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So… not really expensive at all I guess

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$61 is exactly how much Disney Plus Premium increased their annual price in the past hike few months back, to put it into perspective (from $79 to $140).

I’m really glad during the pandemic, a bunch of departments in my company focused on getting everyone Linux laptops. That led to a widespread adoption companywide.

I doubt any department is going to get approval to move to Windows 11 and deal with Microsoft’s fees.

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It’s the cost of installing Linux. 🤷

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Janette in finance is going to murder whoever tries to give her a FOSS alternative to Excel or forces her to fuck with a VM or web Excel.

We remember the last IT admin that tried to do a platform swap on her. RIP Patrick.

As someone who uses Excel on Windows and Calc on Linux, I can totally understand. There are some big differences so there’s a valid reason for sticking with Excel. Casual users won’t notice anything big, but advanced users will.

On the other hand, if you’re an advanced Excel user, it usually means you’re trying to make it do stuff that it isn’t very good at. If you want stuff that Calc can’t provide, it’s a clear sign you should have written that calculation in R or Python a long time ago.

"Hey Janette. Switching to Linux will save the company $$$$$$$ per year.
Your options are:

  • Create more value than that so it’s worthwhile to stay on Windows for you
  • Find a new job
  • Deal with it"
@jaybone@lemmy.world
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This is the final windows update.

wootz
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That’s not what this post is about.

I understand, and agree, with the sentiment that more people should switch to Linux, but please don’t pretend the answer to every topic regarding Microsoft or Windows is “just switch to Linux”. It is for some, but it derails and invalidates a necessary conversation about shitty behaviour by Microsoft.

I have a machine running linux at home, I’m not afraid of a package manager, but Linux is not the answer to everything. Not yet at lesst.

I can’t refuse to use windows at work, and much as i would sometimes like to, I can’t just go and quit over what OS our computers run. That would end poorly for my livelihood and family.

The purpose of this article is to highlight unfair behaviour by Microsoft, especially towards businesses, which is a topic that needs more attention. Microsoft is in every level of infrastructure in almost every big corporation, and no matter how attractive linux is, that doesn’t make the dangers of centralised IT belonging to one company any less relevant.

We should all do more to lobby for more companies and corporations switching to Linux, but replying with “just switch to Linux smh” is not pushing that agenda.

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So I’ve got a year to get everything I need running on Fedora. My only concern is Linux audio configs as I never have to use audio running servers.

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Unless you are running some really bizarre hardware, I don’t really see how you’ll have to worry about any of that with a modern pipewire stack

@iopq@lemmy.world
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I thought so too, but it skips in wine for me so I went back to pulse. Surprisingly, never issues in pulse anymore

@assembly@lemmy.world
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I haven’t had the chance to run an external audio interface through Linux so not sure how smooth the transitions work with multiple recording sources. According to Focusrite, Linux is supported so hopefully it won’t be too rough.

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I have gen2 2i2, and a Solo. Both work flawlessly out of the box

@assembly@lemmy.world
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I have the 2i2 and this is what I was hoping to hear. I’ve always had it hooked up to Windows and it drops off daily to where I need to reset the sample rate to get it working again. Apparently it happens on Windows relatively often so looking forward to that not happening on Linux. I also hear that Reaper works in Linux so those are the last of my concerns.

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For Windows, my recommendation is that you remove the default Focusrite driver all together, and install FlexASIO. Their proprietary ASIO has been nothing but problems.

Reaper does work great too. Since you’ve brought up Fedora, most of what you need is already there. I would recommend you also install QJackCtl, and the pipewire-jack bridge. Much easier to control your inputs through the graph, especially if you have many mics or instruments

@assembly@lemmy.world
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I appreciate the recommendation! I’ll check out FlexASIO and QJackCtl.

@Mango@lemmy.world
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Harold_Penisman
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I skimmed the article, but they seem to keep saying that the cost is for “businesses”. So am I right to assume that I can get these updates for free on my personal PC?

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If it’s going to be anything like XP and Win 7, no, but actually kinda yes.

Microsoft wants you to upgrade to win 11 so they don’t offer the updates for you, but if you refuse they’d still much rather you don’t just run an unsecured Windows for multiple years so the security check to enable extended updates is rather easy to bypass almost on purpose.

But we won’t know until after they drop support.

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No, home and pro EOL are the same date as enterprise. Enterprise editions are allowed the extra time because Microsoft already knows an insane amount of businesses will not be fully moved off 10 by that date and instead of making themselves look bad, they setup this program to tell everyone hey where here for you and also ready to make an insane amount of bonus money.

Idk if the article also mentions, but every year after the first, the price increases for each additional year. The did this with Windows 7 as well, I know all about it because I work for a company that had to do it for 2 years. Once the time comes you replace the systems license with a new key that continues to allow updates to work.

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as far i know, this isn’t intented for normal users but more for companys. normal users are supposed to upgrade. you can basically pay microsoft for a bit more time so you can change your workflow to be able to switch to win11.

@Jimmycakes@lemmy.world
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I’m good. I don’t own local copies of anything I’ll format that shit without a care in the world

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How long has windows 11 been out? Edit: Since October 2021.

Why do I use a “health” check to see if I can upgrade? (My PC can’t be upgraded, so I guess it’s unhealthy?)

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I guess your options are:

  • Do hacky workarounds to install Win11. If you make an install disc with Rufus there’s a checkbox to do this automatically. There’s no guarantee MS won’t bork your install at some point due to this, but so far it’s worked well for people.

  • Install Linux.

  • Stay on Win10 and lose software support from MS and your installed programs. This is risky, and the longer you do it the more risky it’ll get.

  • Send your PC to the landfill and buy a new one.

And yet, whenever I see it, w11 feels like beta software to me. There’s apparently stuff being added and removed all the time. Broken updates every now and again…

I haven’t used Windows much for ages even though I tried to follow a little what was going on on that front, but it never felt that way with the previous versions.

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This is just going to lead to people using outdated Windows 10 for various reasons. I don’t use Windows much but have it installed. The trackpad gesture customization is basically gone in Windows 11 but was at least serviceable in Windows 10 (to change virtual desktops and volume easily).

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