The real issue nowadays is the software, although this is still a good step.
But being stuck with no software updates after 2-4 years still renders them unusable (when also locked down).
They should be forced to provide open bootloaders, firmware and kernel drivers once the devices reach end of life. Maybe even include hardware details and schematics, etc. for full repairability.
The efforts of devices like the Framework laptop and Steam Deck should be commonplace. It’s insane we put some corporation’s patents and trade secrets above the environment.
While they have other not-friendly practices, Apple does well on the software side. The iPhone 8, going on 6 years old this September, is still running the latest version of iOS.
I’ve been away from Android for a while now. Is it still the case that there is a lot of fragmentation and updates end prematurely? Or is there another OS / software you’re thinking about?
The thing with older iPhones, running new iOSes, is that they’re intentionally slowed down (by the software) or as I’d like to call it, underclocked. That also could render them useless, even with new iOS, and even if there were removable batteries.
The intentional slowdown was directly related to battery life. They got sued over it. But if you put in a new battery, performance returns to previous levels.
Apple even tells you in your battery info settings page whether you are running with “Peak Performance Capability”.
Also sucks because, since they don’t update the software. Then they develop always on the recent or latest hardware (which requires less optimizations) and we end up always stuck in terms of performance and battery life.
Well, these goals are about sustainability of batteries and electric related “stuff” in general not just phones. Phone affect us the most in terms of everyday life and addiction but in terms of long term impact to the environment and what we need to focus on the most that’s a harder nut to crack b/c we don’t know how growth will happen moving forward. So I think this makes sense to have a broad/sweeping legislation that covers lots of mediums and has different targets depending on the size/usage of the “thing”. Obviously removing a battery from a car is not the same thing (in terms of complexity or even ‘need’) as removing a battery from an electric scooter.
There are open source operating systems that are Android based which will update to the latest versions and fix bugs and suchwell beyond the manufacturer’s support, lineageOS for example.
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The real issue nowadays is the software, although this is still a good step.
But being stuck with no software updates after 2-4 years still renders them unusable (when also locked down).
They should be forced to provide open bootloaders, firmware and kernel drivers once the devices reach end of life. Maybe even include hardware details and schematics, etc. for full repairability.
The efforts of devices like the Framework laptop and Steam Deck should be commonplace. It’s insane we put some corporation’s patents and trade secrets above the environment.
While they have other not-friendly practices, Apple does well on the software side. The iPhone 8, going on 6 years old this September, is still running the latest version of iOS.
I’ve been away from Android for a while now. Is it still the case that there is a lot of fragmentation and updates end prematurely? Or is there another OS / software you’re thinking about?
The thing with older iPhones, running new iOSes, is that they’re intentionally slowed down (by the software) or as I’d like to call it, underclocked. That also could render them useless, even with new iOS, and even if there were removable batteries.
The intentional slowdown was directly related to battery life. They got sued over it. But if you put in a new battery, performance returns to previous levels.
Apple even tells you in your battery info settings page whether you are running with “Peak Performance Capability”.
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Also sucks because, since they don’t update the software. Then they develop always on the recent or latest hardware (which requires less optimizations) and we end up always stuck in terms of performance and battery life.
Well, these goals are about sustainability of batteries and electric related “stuff” in general not just phones. Phone affect us the most in terms of everyday life and addiction but in terms of long term impact to the environment and what we need to focus on the most that’s a harder nut to crack b/c we don’t know how growth will happen moving forward. So I think this makes sense to have a broad/sweeping legislation that covers lots of mediums and has different targets depending on the size/usage of the “thing”. Obviously removing a battery from a car is not the same thing (in terms of complexity or even ‘need’) as removing a battery from an electric scooter.
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only 2 models and the “cheap” one is more than I paid for the last two phones I had, combined. what percentage of the market do they have?
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There are open source operating systems that are Android based which will update to the latest versions and fix bugs and suchwell beyond the manufacturer’s support, lineageOS for example.