It’s almost like pathologically fetishized “growth” (perpetually fetishized by the rich and their trained sycophants in the media, that is) is completely disconnected from the socio-economic condition of the majority of people on this planet.
I had/have such a hard time convincing people that this isn’t traditional inflation as much as it’s corporate price gouging. This is being done to us, not a result of Biden’s economic policies
Well, an economy that prices more and more people out of specific markets (like, the average person can’t afford the median home any more and the cost of necessities like food, fuel, clothing and housing has gone up much faster than return on labor) might involve a rising stock market but it is objectively worse if you make your money by working.
because it doesnt matter how great the economy is, because only the rich and businesses benefit from it.
Meanwhile us peasant folk are still struggling to buy overpriced essentials and afford the worst, most unsuitable, barely qualifying roofs over our heads.
It’s too uneven. Personally our household is doing better because both kids are working and the company I work for ditched plans to go public, and a couple of other factors. But:
Car insurance increased sharply (probably counted as money coming into the economy)
Homeowners insurance increased
Food prices increased.
Wages don’t increase as much as household costs. Until the wages of everyday people are growing faster than their expenses, they aren’t doing better. Again, personally we are, but I don’t think that can be extrapolated out, most households don’t have an opportunity to deploy more people to work.
Fuckers always trot out that wage growth shit. They truly don’t understand that most people’s wages have not increased. If they have they likely have not even kept up with inflation.
I’m an accountant and the measurements used in economics are kind of backwards, they worry about payroll cost, that’s true but what the fuck? They measure economic growth as though companies are people and people are expenses.
We need employee owned businesses all round and then that measure might make sense. But as it stands now, it’s literally measuring inequality.
It doesn’t matter that the economy is growing if it isn’t lifting up your life as well. Hundreds of millions of people still live in US states where it’s legal to pay $7 an hour. (2/3 of them) All of us are dealing with rampant inflation and crippling costs for utilities, housing, and food.
The government’s position on this is that the Biden Administration has created 16,000,000 jobs, and while that may be true, I’d wager my savings that most of those are second and third jobs, because it’s become impossible to live with just one in the United States of America.
I’d wager my savings that most of those are second and third jobs, because it’s become impossible to live with just one in the United States of America.
I’ve wondered this as well - and wondered if Biden ever really grokked what’s happening. Hopefully others do and they follow through once they win (if they do).
I don’t think anyone at the federal does. If they do, they simply don’t care, judging by their actions.
We’re about to hit 20 years of the minimum wage being $7 at the federal level, across three administrations, two of which were Democratic with control of Congress. I expect more of the same no matter who we elect in the fall.
We think the economy is worse because it is for us. Food prices have doubled or more than doubled in the last ten years and our income is stagnant so we make the same but everything costs more. We don’t see any growth or stability in the quality of our lives.
Inflation is nothing compared to price gouging and price fixing by businesses that no one tries to curtail. This is approved of by the powers that be.
But let one opportunistic asshole corner the market on hand sanitizer in one region of the US at the beginning of a pandemic and he has to give it all away because nearly everyone thinks he is a monster.
I think what people are feeling is what has been often described as enshitification. The definition of that term as given by its creator doesn’t match the context in which I see it increasingly used. However, I think that the phenomenon that people often use it to describe is what is killing consumer confidence.
If the economy is actually serving consumers, then those at the top are making less profits. This is unacceptable. They have to keep making money. They have to keep increasing how much money they make. They have to keep increasing the rate at which they increase the money they make. If they’re not, then they are stagnating according to investors. This is incompatible with the survival of normal people. Growth cannot be infinite.
So the companies consolidate and find corners to cut and we absolutely feel it even if it doesn’t show in the numbers. They find new and creative ways to create “shrinkflation”. They don’t have to literally shrink the product - that’s too obvious. They can instead alter the formula, find cheaper low quality components, squeeze their workers harder or outsource labor, stand behind their products just a little less by updating wording to sound the same but technically promise less, add a little friction to their warranty process, hedge against inevitable future failure with no class action clauses or forced arbitration in their terms…
It feels like every company is doing something like that these days… and if they aren’t, they are being abused or bought by a company that is.
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Nah, the economy is fine, just like the planet. The people are fucked! Just like George Carlin used to say.
Well yeah. Who gives a fuck about a 2% increase in the GDP? Prices are high and wages are low.
Economic growth doesn’t necessarily translate to an economy that serves the needs of a wider majority, often it means just the opposite.
Homes aren’t going to get more affordable… Neither is Healthcare.
The other 30% are rich
Wow.
It’s almost like pathologically fetishized “growth” (perpetually fetishized by the rich and their trained sycophants in the media, that is) is completely disconnected from the socio-economic condition of the majority of people on this planet.
That “economic growth” is for the benefit of capital owners at the expense of everyone and everything else. I’m so done with capitalism.
I had/have such a hard time convincing people that this isn’t traditional inflation as much as it’s corporate price gouging. This is being done to us, not a result of Biden’s economic policies
Well, an economy that prices more and more people out of specific markets (like, the average person can’t afford the median home any more and the cost of necessities like food, fuel, clothing and housing has gone up much faster than return on labor) might involve a rising stock market but it is objectively worse if you make your money by working.
because it doesnt matter how great the economy is, because only the rich and businesses benefit from it.
Meanwhile us peasant folk are still struggling to buy overpriced essentials and afford the worst, most unsuitable, barely qualifying roofs over our heads.
Mmm I love sawdust in my food! /s
As usual they measure the wrong sectors for these pronouncements
It’s too uneven. Personally our household is doing better because both kids are working and the company I work for ditched plans to go public, and a couple of other factors. But:
Car insurance increased sharply (probably counted as money coming into the economy)
Homeowners insurance increased
Food prices increased.
Wages don’t increase as much as household costs. Until the wages of everyday people are growing faster than their expenses, they aren’t doing better. Again, personally we are, but I don’t think that can be extrapolated out, most households don’t have an opportunity to deploy more people to work.
Fuckers always trot out that wage growth shit. They truly don’t understand that most people’s wages have not increased. If they have they likely have not even kept up with inflation.
I’m an accountant and the measurements used in economics are kind of backwards, they worry about payroll cost, that’s true but what the fuck? They measure economic growth as though companies are people and people are expenses.
We need employee owned businesses all round and then that measure might make sense. But as it stands now, it’s literally measuring inequality.
It doesn’t matter that the economy is growing if it isn’t lifting up your life as well. Hundreds of millions of people still live in US states where it’s legal to pay $7 an hour. (2/3 of them) All of us are dealing with rampant inflation and crippling costs for utilities, housing, and food.
The government’s position on this is that the Biden Administration has created 16,000,000 jobs, and while that may be true, I’d wager my savings that most of those are second and third jobs, because it’s become impossible to live with just one in the United States of America.
I’ve wondered this as well - and wondered if Biden ever really grokked what’s happening. Hopefully others do and they follow through once they win (if they do).
I don’t think anyone at the federal does. If they do, they simply don’t care, judging by their actions.
We’re about to hit 20 years of the minimum wage being $7 at the federal level, across three administrations, two of which were Democratic with control of Congress. I expect more of the same no matter who we elect in the fall.
It’s almost like the word has a different meaning on Wall Street than it does for the average person!
We think the economy is worse because it is for us. Food prices have doubled or more than doubled in the last ten years and our income is stagnant so we make the same but everything costs more. We don’t see any growth or stability in the quality of our lives.
Inflation is nothing compared to price gouging and price fixing by businesses that no one tries to curtail. This is approved of by the powers that be.
But let one opportunistic asshole corner the market on hand sanitizer in one region of the US at the beginning of a pandemic and he has to give it all away because nearly everyone thinks he is a monster.
How old are you? Genuinely curious.
I can remember the last moon landing.
I think what people are feeling is what has been often described as enshitification. The definition of that term as given by its creator doesn’t match the context in which I see it increasingly used. However, I think that the phenomenon that people often use it to describe is what is killing consumer confidence.
If the economy is actually serving consumers, then those at the top are making less profits. This is unacceptable. They have to keep making money. They have to keep increasing how much money they make. They have to keep increasing the rate at which they increase the money they make. If they’re not, then they are stagnating according to investors. This is incompatible with the survival of normal people. Growth cannot be infinite.
So the companies consolidate and find corners to cut and we absolutely feel it even if it doesn’t show in the numbers. They find new and creative ways to create “shrinkflation”. They don’t have to literally shrink the product - that’s too obvious. They can instead alter the formula, find cheaper low quality components, squeeze their workers harder or outsource labor, stand behind their products just a little less by updating wording to sound the same but technically promise less, add a little friction to their warranty process, hedge against inevitable future failure with no class action clauses or forced arbitration in their terms…
It feels like every company is doing something like that these days… and if they aren’t, they are being abused or bought by a company that is.
How can confidence then not be down?
I’ll stick with price gouging.
“Believe”
Looks like you should instead be focusing on how these 70% draw the conclusions that lead to their “beliefs”