With the emergence of LLM “AI”, everyone will have to learn what many disabled people have always understood

Yes! This is a brilliant explanation of why language use is not the same as intelligence, and why LLMs like chatGPT are not intelligence. At all.

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The ability to speak does not make you intelligent.

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Here are some correlations of language skills and other intelligence factors or evaluations (e.g. IQ) via a study (recently integrated the info into the article: Neurogenetics – language GWAS

However, I largely agree – see for example this argument / its sources

Ability to speak seems like an obvious sign on some kind of intelligence and complexity but I don’t remember anyone ever arguing that inability to speak means lack of intelligence. We know a plenty of intelligent species that lack the ability to speak a language as complex as humans can but we don’t consider them unintelligent because of that.

“LLMs are not intelligent at all”

Sucks to lose your job to a potenttially more competent AI then that lacks any intelligence.

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Did you say “sucks to lose your job to a manufacturing robot that lacks any intelligence” to the countless people in manufacturing jobs left destitute by robotics starting in the 1960s?

but I don’t remember anyone ever arguing that inability to speak means lack of intelligence.

You don’t learn heuristics by means of an argument.

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The replies to this thread show a deep uniformed ignorance that’s frankly appalling and depressing.

@Nefrayu@lemmy.world
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Perhaps if you want to enlighten people you should give more than short overly hostile replies to comments?

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The real indicator is Language + Puns.

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[…] in blog posts and videos and published memoirs, autistic teens and young adults described living for a decade or more without any way to communicate, while people around them assumed they were intellectually deficient.

On a related note… only 5% of hearing parents with a deaf child will learn sign language.

…That’s disgusting.

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This whole thread is absurd.

Chatgpt has a form of intelligence depending on your definition of intelligence. It may also be considered conscious in a very alien and undeveloped way. It is definitely not sentient.

Kind of like having the stochastic word generating part of a brain and nothing else.

You can still shape it into something capable of intelligent and directed activity.

People are really bad at accepting the level of nuance necessary for this topic.

It is useful and fantastic for what it already is. People are just really bad at understanding what it is.

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You are simply factually incorrect. You need to read morecthsn just fanboy sources.

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what? what part? what “fanboy sources”?

i mean, i’m a fanboy of things like Earl K. Miller’s recent presentation on thought as an emergent property.

or general belief in different neural functions in tandem allowing us to react to the environment in ‘intelligent’ ways

you can see at the end how certain neuronal events can be related to something like transformers.

at what point from amoeba to human to you consider “intelligence” to be a valid description of what is happening?

do you understand how obscure alien intelligences can be?

what are your non-fanboy “sources”?

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I’m shocked, I thought it was sentient!

indeed whales cant speak and are very smart 🧠 /s

Wait until you learn the language of deer!

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