I have a feeling it’ll probably due a great deal of harm to the idea of Anti-adblock being “actually effective”. Up until now it’s only really been used by a handful of News, file download, and… Mature content… sites. Places with smaller userbases and less traffic where the effort for bypassing them is lower or just not discussed due to the small size or nature of the site.
It’s not really the case here though. So in one way or another this is going to fail.
I would definitely recommend people start backing up YouTube videos from older creators because I imagine that after this they’ll be looking to reduce costs and that likely means purging inactive channels or channels that cost more than they make.
I’m noting down fixes as I find them, and so far they are effective. However, our fixes face the same dillema as their changes - what one person can contrive another can work around.
We have the advantage of numbers, so we generate a wider range of work arounds, but our opponent can also see those work arounds (we share them freely) and so has an easier time countering them, i.e. they are faster at reversing each individual fix.
As far as I can tell, they aren’t doing a very good job. I’ve seen the notice that an ad blocker is not allowed, and even without upgrading the ad blocker I use I can still just click the close button on the notice and it goes away and I can continue to watch uninterrupted.
If Google does figure out how to prevent people from using ad blockers on YouTube, I think it will help me break my honestly unhealthy habit and reduce the amount I watch, or perhaps even quit entirely, since there are far more ads on YouTube than there were in the past - especially if you also include sponsor ads that are embedded in videos.
It’s a fairly straightforward cat and mouse game. The only thing that has the potential to make it complicated soon is Google’s Web Environment Integrity API.
I’ve been getting it off and on the last few days, oddly only on one PC still running 10 but everything else with FF/UO is up to date. Nothing on two 11 machines so far, with all signed in on the same google account.
No one can create an alternative platform. Youtube costs far far, far too much to run. This is why everyone failed. Google subsidised it for what, 15 years? Before it got any level of profitability and even then, nof really. Google derives other value from it, like feeding data into their ad profiles, but no one else needs that.
It’s also clear that workarounds will stop soon as Google has installed Web drm directly into chrome
You’d be surprised how things can change, and quickly. It’s not going to be a overnight win for another platform. It’s going to have to start from the ground up, in probably a decentralized way, but it can happen.
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YouTube is fighting a losing battle
It has been a long time coming - might be we’re in for another dark age of the net at the current pace of things.
A way around will be found, it always is, until then consider archiving the things you enjoy to pass the time while we wait.
I have a feeling it’ll probably due a great deal of harm to the idea of Anti-adblock being “actually effective”. Up until now it’s only really been used by a handful of News, file download, and… Mature content… sites. Places with smaller userbases and less traffic where the effort for bypassing them is lower or just not discussed due to the small size or nature of the site.
It’s not really the case here though. So in one way or another this is going to fail.
I would definitely recommend people start backing up YouTube videos from older creators because I imagine that after this they’ll be looking to reduce costs and that likely means purging inactive channels or channels that cost more than they make.
This thread is full of fixes, and i havw another one that im not seeing anyone mention so its not lost yet!
I’m noting down fixes as I find them, and so far they are effective. However, our fixes face the same dillema as their changes - what one person can contrive another can work around.
We have the advantage of numbers, so we generate a wider range of work arounds, but our opponent can also see those work arounds (we share them freely) and so has an easier time countering them, i.e. they are faster at reversing each individual fix.
havent seen this popup on Youtube. currently using librewolf with ublock origin. maybe i’m not logged in.
An updated uBlock Origin will remove the popup
Like I said, I haven’t encountered it yet.
Yes, because of uBlock Origin
It’s not a loophole, it’s a necessary security function.
As far as I can tell, they aren’t doing a very good job. I’ve seen the notice that an ad blocker is not allowed, and even without upgrading the ad blocker I use I can still just click the close button on the notice and it goes away and I can continue to watch uninterrupted.
If Google does figure out how to prevent people from using ad blockers on YouTube, I think it will help me break my honestly unhealthy habit and reduce the amount I watch, or perhaps even quit entirely, since there are far more ads on YouTube than there were in the past - especially if you also include sponsor ads that are embedded in videos.
I have been enjoying Nebula. If Google manages to kill ad blockers, I will probably just go live over there.
we will win, sail the high seas
So far, I can dismiss the popup in Firefox and keep watching, but I dread the day that this doesn’t work anymore.
It’s a fairly straightforward cat and mouse game. The only thing that has the potential to make it complicated soon is Google’s Web Environment Integrity API.
I’m using Firefox with uBlock Origin and I have yet to see that popup
You will. I didn’t start getting it until three days ago.
I’ve been getting it off and on the last few days, oddly only on one PC still running 10 but everything else with FF/UO is up to date. Nothing on two 11 machines so far, with all signed in on the same google account.
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
These ad block users should be considered the cost of doing business and they should be careful with targeting them.
This kind of thing springs users into action to either find or use work arounds or create a alternative platform.
No one can create an alternative platform. Youtube costs far far, far too much to run. This is why everyone failed. Google subsidised it for what, 15 years? Before it got any level of profitability and even then, nof really. Google derives other value from it, like feeding data into their ad profiles, but no one else needs that.
It’s also clear that workarounds will stop soon as Google has installed Web drm directly into chrome
You’d be surprised how things can change, and quickly. It’s not going to be a overnight win for another platform. It’s going to have to start from the ground up, in probably a decentralized way, but it can happen.