Researchers warn that most of the text we view online has been poorly translated into one or more languages—usually by a machine.
A ‘Shocking’ Amount of the Web Is Already AI-Translated Trash, Scientists Determine::Researchers warn that most of the text we view online has been poorly translated into one or more languages—usually by a machine.
The whole webring idea needs to come back. Human curated recommendations of good resources and pages. So long as these pages remain in the control of humans and dedicated to curation and are decentralised, unlike the search engines, then they’ll be reliable.
Plugging in some social and community organisation, perhaps like a wiki, and you could get even more out of it.
This isn’t shocking at all. The markets for obscure language content are incredibly small so there’s no incentive for most to spend resources on it. I’d argue mediocre machine translation is better than nothing at all in many cases, but for unsupervised training it does pose a challenge.
They didn’t only look at low-resource languages, they just started there because that was the problem domain. They found that 57% of ALL sentences on the Internet appeared to be machine translated, including translations into high-resource languages. The remaining 43% might also be machine generated, it just wasn’t found to be part of a multi-way parallel group.
Recently I was looking for info (in finnish) how to prevent car windows from fogging. I found a really weird website all about car windows, but it kept confusing car and house windows. It instructed to clean car windows by “opening the window and cleaning between the panels”.
It was obviously ai-generated, but I couldn’t figure out why. They weren’t selling anything, there were no ads and no links to other websites or services.
Edit: I found the site again, I cannot spot anything nefarious, but proceed with caution: https://www.lasinvaihto.fi/
It’s probably either waiting for approval to sell ads or was denied and they’re adding more stuff. Google has a virtual monopoly on ads, and their approval process can take 1-2 weeks. Google’s content policy basially demands that your site by full of generated trash to sell ads. I did a case study here, in which Google denied my popular and useful website for ads until I filled it with the lowest-quality generated trash imaginable. That might help clarify what’s up.
Dates could be made up, too.The blog posts that I generated for my site included made up dates in the past. The internet archive says it has a snapshot for March of 2023, but when I click it, it says it doesn’t, so I have no way of verifying. The theory about parking real estate hoping to sell it also seems pretty plausible to me. Who knows what dumb shit they’re up to.
Hey man! I’ve read this article a few times, perhaps from other comments on Lemmy!
Thanks for the write-up. I’m a programmer myself.
Stuck in operations in my new job until we’re done with the data center exit/ migration. Anyway cool beans, and very interesting article. Will keep all this in mind if any of my hobby projects take off.
For a time I thought this Fediverse thing would help or change things or something, but honestly…the Internet is just plain boring now…and it’s pretty clear what is causing that: AI / SEO trash content, social media’s rise, and commercialization of the Internet generally.
One day I was even feeling nostalgic so I went back to where I spent hours upon hours of my youth: EFNet on IRC…there was basically nobody there and of the few channels I saw some were even Trump-leaning weirdo “communities”.
It’s basically finished. I can’t even find a decent place to procrastinate or hang out anymore on this POS. It’s all just a giant ad surface and e-commerce portal. The fucking owners won.
I’ve been saying for quite a while now that the Internet was best in the '90s and early 2000s back before it was commercialized, even despite all the “under construction” gifs and whatnot. The signal/noise ratio has only continued to drop since then.
Counterpoint: the Internet still exists as it did back then, but relatively smaller compared to what it’s become.
You just need to find the right people and content to interact with, which is harder now because there’s so much more garbage. I’d say they have grown in absolute numbers.
Here’s the summary for the wikipedia article you mentioned in your comment:
The dead Internet theory is an online conspiracy theory that asserts that the Internet now consists mainly of bot activity and automatically generated content that is manipulated by algorithmic curation, marginalizing organic human activity. Proponents of the theory believe these bots are created intentionally to help manipulate algorithms and boost search results in order to ultimately manipulate consumers. Furthermore, some proponents of the theory accuse government agencies of using bots to manipulate public perception, stating “The U. S. government is engaging in an artificial intelligence powered gaslighting of the entire world population”.
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The whole webring idea needs to come back. Human curated recommendations of good resources and pages. So long as these pages remain in the control of humans and dedicated to curation and are decentralised, unlike the search engines, then they’ll be reliable.
Plugging in some social and community organisation, perhaps like a wiki, and you could get even more out of it.
There are modern webrings. Dang the yesterweb webring shut down, that was a really good one.
I need an AI Firefox extension that detects badly translated AI text and automatically blocks those domains.
Thanks, scientists, couldn’t have known that without you.
Next up: scientists detect sarcasm.
No way.
There is value in verifying and quantifying opinion, even if your sure this opinion is true.
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This isn’t shocking at all. The markets for obscure language content are incredibly small so there’s no incentive for most to spend resources on it. I’d argue mediocre machine translation is better than nothing at all in many cases, but for unsupervised training it does pose a challenge.
They didn’t only look at low-resource languages, they just started there because that was the problem domain. They found that 57% of ALL sentences on the Internet appeared to be machine translated, including translations into high-resource languages. The remaining 43% might also be machine generated, it just wasn’t found to be part of a multi-way parallel group.
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Translation is very different from generation.
As a matter of fact, even AI generation has different grades of quality.
SEO garbage is certainly not the same as an article with AI generated components and very different from a translated article.
I recently was searching for some tips on overlanding routes. So many sites are just long strung together SEO word salad.
Too good not to be ruined by humanity
Recently I was looking for info (in finnish) how to prevent car windows from fogging. I found a really weird website all about car windows, but it kept confusing car and house windows. It instructed to clean car windows by “opening the window and cleaning between the panels”.
It was obviously ai-generated, but I couldn’t figure out why. They weren’t selling anything, there were no ads and no links to other websites or services.
Edit: I found the site again, I cannot spot anything nefarious, but proceed with caution: https://www.lasinvaihto.fi/
It’s probably either waiting for approval to sell ads or was denied and they’re adding more stuff. Google has a virtual monopoly on ads, and their approval process can take 1-2 weeks. Google’s content policy basially demands that your site by full of generated trash to sell ads. I did a case study here, in which Google denied my popular and useful website for ads until I filled it with the lowest-quality generated trash imaginable. That might help clarify what’s up.
The posts are from march 2023, and there are no ads yet :/
Dates could be made up, too.The blog posts that I generated for my site included made up dates in the past. The internet archive says it has a snapshot for March of 2023, but when I click it, it says it doesn’t, so I have no way of verifying. The theory about parking real estate hoping to sell it also seems pretty plausible to me. Who knows what dumb shit they’re up to.
Hey man! I’ve read this article a few times, perhaps from other comments on Lemmy!
Thanks for the write-up. I’m a programmer myself.
Stuck in operations in my new job until we’re done with the data center exit/ migration. Anyway cool beans, and very interesting article. Will keep all this in mind if any of my hobby projects take off.
What an absolute ballbag Google is.
That is one weird glib to throw in there.
My editor is an actual saint. Imagine all the shit that she has to put up with that gets cut if that made it through!
Good bot.
For a time I thought this Fediverse thing would help or change things or something, but honestly…the Internet is just plain boring now…and it’s pretty clear what is causing that: AI / SEO trash content, social media’s rise, and commercialization of the Internet generally.
One day I was even feeling nostalgic so I went back to where I spent hours upon hours of my youth: EFNet on IRC…there was basically nobody there and of the few channels I saw some were even Trump-leaning weirdo “communities”.
It’s basically finished. I can’t even find a decent place to procrastinate or hang out anymore on this POS. It’s all just a giant ad surface and e-commerce portal. The fucking owners won.
EFNet is boomer shit. Most of IRC happens on other servers now, like LiberaChat, or on new protocols like Matrix.
We’re still here, we’re still alive
Always has been 🔫
That said, I would suggest smaller communities and private messaging. Find your niche and make it home.
I’ve been saying for quite a while now that the Internet was best in the '90s and early 2000s back before it was commercialized, even despite all the “under construction” gifs and whatnot. The signal/noise ratio has only continued to drop since then.
Counterpoint: the Internet still exists as it did back then, but relatively smaller compared to what it’s become.
You just need to find the right people and content to interact with, which is harder now because there’s so much more garbage. I’d say they have grown in absolute numbers.
I get what you’re saying that '90s-style content is largely still there if you look for it, but this…
…has nevertheless destroyed the “Internet as it existed back then,” which was specifically an Internet where finding such content was easy.
You can find a lot of old school websites hosted on neocities, though a lot of them are more of an art project than an actual website.
More evidence for the Dead Internet Theory.
Here’s the summary for the wikipedia article you mentioned in your comment:
The dead Internet theory is an online conspiracy theory that asserts that the Internet now consists mainly of bot activity and automatically generated content that is manipulated by algorithmic curation, marginalizing organic human activity. Proponents of the theory believe these bots are created intentionally to help manipulate algorithms and boost search results in order to ultimately manipulate consumers. Furthermore, some proponents of the theory accuse government agencies of using bots to manipulate public perception, stating “The U. S. government is engaging in an artificial intelligence powered gaslighting of the entire world population”.
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Lol, read the room bot.
Fucking ironic
Good bot