Been a longtime user of Bitwarden (free, and over the last year paid). It’s a straightforward/good but a bit boring UI, connects very well and easily into browser, phone etc. Works well, highly recommended, and having 2FA on paid version is awesome.
Been trying out Proton Pass for the last few days since I already pay for Proton Unlimited. It’s got a good UI and so far it’s been working well in Firefox and on my phone. It’s much better integration with Simple Login features so I like the slightly more seemless sign-up ability. It’s not 100% feature parity with Bitwarden paid though.
Bottom line - I prefer proton pass as a heavy proton user already BUT if I just wanted a standalone password manager, Bitwarden is probably better. Both are good options though, and competition is good.
I love Proton but I don’t use their password manager because I use Proton for email (and calendar, and VPN, and cloud storage). If my email gets compromised somehow, I don’t want my password manager compromised too.
Just got an email from proton today about their “lifetime deal” for proton pass I currently use bitwarden and Firefox relay but I’ve been debating trying to drop my Gmail account and switch everything to my proton account. Thinking it would be silly to pay Firefox $12 a year just for relay when I can get that and more from proton for the same price.
All of that to say how exactly does the email alias work and can I set a custom email subdomain to just have an alias get created whenever an email is sent to the email I give someone without me having to go manually create it?
I missed that you said in private tabs. I can reproduce it there but BW also says that private tabs support is still experimental when you try to do it.
I’ve never used Proton Pass so I can’t comment on which is better. However, my wife and I have both used Bitwarden for a number of years and have no complaints. Works with Brave, Chrome, Firefox; works on Linux, Mac and Android. We don’t have Windows or iPhone so can’t comment on those. We can share selected passwords between us.
Works great with iPhone. It gets a little angsty when you have the Apple keychain or whatever it’s called activated sometimes. Honestly it is just a matter of selecting which to use, but the software gets a little confused sometimes.
No sir, I did this for years. I used Kypass on my iPhone so I could use my passwords on my phone as well. I ended up switching to Bitwarden for easier 2FA implementation and granular password sharing rather than having to share my whole vault or manage a separated shared vault
I use Bitwarden with DUO as my Authenticator app. I know that you can set up keepass with 2FA via an extension but I didn’t find it as portable with my existing apps which is why I decided to make the switch
I like Bitwarden because I can host my own server and control it all. Not sure if the other service does set-hosting. Maybe you can do the same with that?
I’ve been thinking of setting up my own server. Does hosting your own server feel secure? I feel capable of setting up my own server but I’m not sure if I trust myself to secure it appropriately.
Yes, it’s secure and of course can be further secured by other services, like vpn and scanners and such. I front my stuff with Cloudflare certs on their free tier as well.
Just use complex passwords for the admin and logins. They also support two-factor authentication which is easy to setup.
i trust proton quite a lot, but the open source part seems to be only partially true. on their github, i can only find client side code (ie. browser extensions, mobile apps), not the server code, which bitwarden does publish
The hard on’s y’all get for password managers, and the Firefox circlejerks is baffling. Leads me to believe these “federated” instances have a double entendre everyone glosses over because of their shiny new toys.
I use random passwords for every account and using a password manager is the best way I’ve found to manage that. Is there another method that you prefer?
I get it, and they definitely make things easier on people. But how many times have we seen instances of people abusing their custodial privileges? My gripe is with the push I’ve seen to get people using these tools, more than the existence of them in general. Mnemonic techniques to remember your passwords will always be superior from a security perspective. It’s the same as crypto, “not your keys, not your coins.”
That’s a good point, thanks for explaining. Something I try to remember is that you not only have to trust the company who’s managing your data, but you also have to trust them to protect it from bad actors.
I’m trusting Bitwarden for now, but eventually I’d like to move to a self-hosted option like Vaultwarden. I think that’s the best way to go if you’re confident in administering it.
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Been a longtime user of Bitwarden (free, and over the last year paid). It’s a straightforward/good but a bit boring UI, connects very well and easily into browser, phone etc. Works well, highly recommended, and having 2FA on paid version is awesome.
Been trying out Proton Pass for the last few days since I already pay for Proton Unlimited. It’s got a good UI and so far it’s been working well in Firefox and on my phone. It’s much better integration with Simple Login features so I like the slightly more seemless sign-up ability. It’s not 100% feature parity with Bitwarden paid though.
Bottom line - I prefer proton pass as a heavy proton user already BUT if I just wanted a standalone password manager, Bitwarden is probably better. Both are good options though, and competition is good.
I love Proton but I don’t use their password manager because I use Proton for email (and calendar, and VPN, and cloud storage). If my email gets compromised somehow, I don’t want my password manager compromised too.
I use protonpass for alias email and bitwarden for passwords.
Just got an email from proton today about their “lifetime deal” for proton pass I currently use bitwarden and Firefox relay but I’ve been debating trying to drop my Gmail account and switch everything to my proton account. Thinking it would be silly to pay Firefox $12 a year just for relay when I can get that and more from proton for the same price.
All of that to say how exactly does the email alias work and can I set a custom email subdomain to just have an alias get created whenever an email is sent to the email I give someone without me having to go manually create it?
Bitwarden isn’t a brand new solution. I don’t understand the comment in Firefox, though, Bitwarden has no issues with it that I’ve found.
There are issues with Firefox private browsing windows that don’t happen in Chrome. Quoting their help article:
Not huge issues, but definitely annoying on a daily basis.
I don’t have experience with the second point but the other two don’t happen to me; it works as it should.
Really? With Firefox in a Private browsing window - are you certain?
Here’s mine, with the vault currently locked, but not showing any locked state (point 3):
And for point 1, just unlock the dropdown extension, exit the extension window, then click on the icon again. It will be re-locked when it shouldn’t.
If you’re really not seeing this, would you mind telling me how you fixed it?
I missed that you said in private tabs. I can reproduce it there but BW also says that private tabs support is still experimental when you try to do it.
Bitwarden because it is open source.
Bitwarden+vaultwarden server = free enterprise access 👍
I have both. Had Bitwarden for many years but trying out Protonpass as an alternative. Bitwarden still the one for me at this moment
I use Bitwarden because it easily syncs across devices, and it’s also more secure.
Do you have a source for the secure part?
I’ve never used Proton Pass so I can’t comment on which is better. However, my wife and I have both used Bitwarden for a number of years and have no complaints. Works with Brave, Chrome, Firefox; works on Linux, Mac and Android. We don’t have Windows or iPhone so can’t comment on those. We can share selected passwords between us.
And it all just works.
Works great with iPhone. It gets a little angsty when you have the Apple keychain or whatever it’s called activated sometimes. Honestly it is just a matter of selecting which to use, but the software gets a little confused sometimes.
I love bitwarden. I don’t use Firefox though. Any password manager you hold the keys on is good though. Used a few years now
Am I a boomer for still using KeepassXC synced via Dropbox?
No sir, I did this for years. I used Kypass on my iPhone so I could use my passwords on my phone as well. I ended up switching to Bitwarden for easier 2FA implementation and granular password sharing rather than having to share my whole vault or manage a separated shared vault
What kind of 2FA setup do you have?
I use Bitwarden with DUO as my Authenticator app. I know that you can set up keepass with 2FA via an extension but I didn’t find it as portable with my existing apps which is why I decided to make the switch
It works but partitions can and will happen and a merge afterwards is non-trivial AFAIK.
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KeepassXC
Bitwarden works fine with Firefox.
I like Bitwarden because I can host my own server and control it all. Not sure if the other service does set-hosting. Maybe you can do the same with that?
I’ve been thinking of setting up my own server. Does hosting your own server feel secure? I feel capable of setting up my own server but I’m not sure if I trust myself to secure it appropriately.
Yes, it’s secure and of course can be further secured by other services, like vpn and scanners and such. I front my stuff with Cloudflare certs on their free tier as well.
Just use complex passwords for the admin and logins. They also support two-factor authentication which is easy to setup.
Both are open source. I will use the free version. Proton pass seems to have a UI more polish.
i trust proton quite a lot, but the open source part seems to be only partially true. on their github, i can only find client side code (ie. browser extensions, mobile apps), not the server code, which bitwarden does publish
The hard on’s y’all get for password managers, and the Firefox circlejerks is baffling. Leads me to believe these “federated” instances have a double entendre everyone glosses over because of their shiny new toys.
I use random passwords for every account and using a password manager is the best way I’ve found to manage that. Is there another method that you prefer?
I get it, and they definitely make things easier on people. But how many times have we seen instances of people abusing their custodial privileges? My gripe is with the push I’ve seen to get people using these tools, more than the existence of them in general. Mnemonic techniques to remember your passwords will always be superior from a security perspective. It’s the same as crypto, “not your keys, not your coins.”
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That’s a good point, thanks for explaining. Something I try to remember is that you not only have to trust the company who’s managing your data, but you also have to trust them to protect it from bad actors.
I’m trusting Bitwarden for now, but eventually I’d like to move to a self-hosted option like Vaultwarden. I think that’s the best way to go if you’re confident in administering it.