This post doesn’t really have anything to do with the PC Master Race community. I’m thinking of locking it down here as the comments have also devolved into a bit of a cess pool and I’m getting lots of moderator reports on it.
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I locked this post from further comments. I’ll give OP several hours to get back to me before I cross post it on their behalf and delete this post.
Then neither is the result of any digital tool. Fools fail to adapt to new tools and efficiencies. If you are using publicly available instances hosted by others, you’ve played with baby food and adolescent nonsense. This is the same foolish insanity as all those that claimed digital media was ruining traditional art media. Specialization is always the constant with technology. When the rules change, those that fail to adapt go extinct.
Take website builders like Squarespace and stuff like that, you can be super good at using the tools to generate an excellent looking page and do it in a fraction of the time it might take someone else. Sure its a skill, one you probably spent time and effort developing, but it doesnt make you a web developer and if someone uses the tools to exactly copy your work pretty much exactly, yeah that sucks but your just using someone elses tools.
Or building a really cool and “unique” car using off the shelf aftermarket parts. Theres literally nothing stopping someone else just doing the same thing using your car as a template.
I think you, like most people, think you can get the same AI image by typing the same thing. But when you’re really trying to create something, knowing how to use layers, in-painting, Photoshop, and tweaking prompt strengths along with switching engines, takes legitimate skill to create a good AI assisted image.
But because I hate the idea of copyright and art hording, I appreciate that none of it is copyrightable.
How is giving an LLM the necessary prompts to generate a piece of art any different than giving modern CNC machines with their retard-proof graphic user interfacesthe necessary parameters to make a finished product.
I think the argument is that the LLM essentially scrapbooks its result from paper pieces it cut out of existing artworks. And that in turn makes it a derivative work so in some jurisdictions the law would say that the LLM-generated image is copyrighted by those artists whose scraps were used to create it, anyways.
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This post doesn’t really have anything to do with the PC Master Race community. I’m thinking of locking it down here as the comments have also devolved into a bit of a cess pool and I’m getting lots of moderator reports on it.
@Road_Warrior_10@lemmy.world , any objections to you crossposting this to a meme community instead?
EDIT: I locked this post from further comments. I’ll give OP several hours to get back to me before I cross post it on their behalf and delete this post.
I’m not smart in the morning sometimes. OP can’t comment on my post if I locked it! LOL
@Road_Warrior_10@lemmy.world - I sent you a Private Message for the same. Please get back to me when you get a chance, thanks!
I’ll take the actions I specified in the next 8 hours if I don’t get a response back from you.
“Stealing” “my” “work”…
That’s the thing, though. Nobody’s stealing his work.
His work being the prompt.
Not sure if this is satire or real. Because AI “artists” aren’t self aware at all.
Then neither is the result of any digital tool. Fools fail to adapt to new tools and efficiencies. If you are using publicly available instances hosted by others, you’ve played with baby food and adolescent nonsense. This is the same foolish insanity as all those that claimed digital media was ruining traditional art media. Specialization is always the constant with technology. When the rules change, those that fail to adapt go extinct.
IMO the guy kind of has a point but mostly not.
Take website builders like Squarespace and stuff like that, you can be super good at using the tools to generate an excellent looking page and do it in a fraction of the time it might take someone else. Sure its a skill, one you probably spent time and effort developing, but it doesnt make you a web developer and if someone uses the tools to exactly copy your work pretty much exactly, yeah that sucks but your just using someone elses tools.
Or building a really cool and “unique” car using off the shelf aftermarket parts. Theres literally nothing stopping someone else just doing the same thing using your car as a template.
I get the “why” he is upset, but… I dont care.
I think you, like most people, think you can get the same AI image by typing the same thing. But when you’re really trying to create something, knowing how to use layers, in-painting, Photoshop, and tweaking prompt strengths along with switching engines, takes legitimate skill to create a good AI assisted image.
But because I hate the idea of copyright and art hording, I appreciate that none of it is copyrightable.
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I think the argument is that the LLM essentially scrapbooks its result from paper pieces it cut out of existing artworks. And that in turn makes it a derivative work so in some jurisdictions the law would say that the LLM-generated image is copyrighted by those artists whose scraps were used to create it, anyways.
That is not how generative AI works. You have described collage, which is legal in any case because it’s not derivative but transformative.