California passes right-to-repair act guaranteeing seven years of parts for your phone::On September 12th, California passed SB 244 to its state Assembly, becoming the third state to pass a right-to-repair bill.
Between needing to be able to service warranties on new cars and parts commonality across different models, it makes sense for a manufacturer to contract their suppliers to continue to produce parts outside what’s needed for initial production (to a point).
After all, if a warranty outlier or defect develops down the road, it’s a lot more expensive to reinstall old tooling and restart production than to just have extra parts on hand.
The aftermarket also plays some role, especially when you get into vehicles with longer service life applications (trucks, emergency vehicles, taxis, etc.)
The small motor industry broke that tradition. There are CARB compliant motors/equipment for the CA market, but if you’re not in CA or the 14 other states that adopted CARB, you can get cheaper non-CARB compliant motors/equipment. Industry decided it was more profitable to split the market.
Sure, that’s because California compliant motors have equipment added to make them compliant, it’s easy to continue selling those with the extra parts not installed
If you need repair equipment or parts, you’ll be able to buy them from California if your state doesn’t implement similar rules
Meanwhile my 1951 tractor still runs strong. I’m a big right to repair guy (lord knows I’ve repaired that thing a million times) and I celebrate the victory, but these laws are a tiny step in our profit-driven, disposable world. Repairability and longevity need to be fundamental design considerations. We’ll never get there with ticky tack regulations on a world where modern tractor manufacturers go out of their way to install computers on their tractor specifically so you can’t repair it yourself.
Your dad sounds awesome. Is it the kind with a narrow front? Those 50s IH tractors are sweet, but most of the ones around here have the narrow fronts, and it’s so hilly that I’m mortified of them. Mine is a Ford 800. Absolute beast of a machine, and it’s older than my parents!
Tell your dad to join Lemmy so we can start an antique tractor community!
Turns out I was off by a decade. 1964 farmall 140. Front grill is white mesh that is bent in 90 degree vertical steps. Love that the grills are such an identifier. Very postwar almost brutalist modern. Not the deco modern of the 40s-50s models. EDIT: not narrow front, but I guess that’s a given for a 60’s model?
All this is going to accomplish is severely limiting the number of devices available to the consumers.
Only a few brands and models will meet the standard to be able to be sold, creating a government backed monopoly and driving the prices of those devices through the roof, while simultaneously creating a black market for unapproved devices.
People will start shopping out of state for devices to be able to have any kind of choice and not have to pay $2k for their new phone.
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Do they also guarantee 7 years of parts for your electric car?
I’ve always wondered how there are auto parts for almost any major auto for years on end. Never enough to research it, but it’s curious.
Between needing to be able to service warranties on new cars and parts commonality across different models, it makes sense for a manufacturer to contract their suppliers to continue to produce parts outside what’s needed for initial production (to a point).
After all, if a warranty outlier or defect develops down the road, it’s a lot more expensive to reinstall old tooling and restart production than to just have extra parts on hand.
The aftermarket also plays some role, especially when you get into vehicles with longer service life applications (trucks, emergency vehicles, taxis, etc.)
Because they produce them.
The newer car makers have yet to learn a lot in this regard.
This is good for all of us, as California is big enough that what companies do for them they do for all
The small motor industry broke that tradition. There are CARB compliant motors/equipment for the CA market, but if you’re not in CA or the 14 other states that adopted CARB, you can get cheaper non-CARB compliant motors/equipment. Industry decided it was more profitable to split the market.
Sure, that’s because California compliant motors have equipment added to make them compliant, it’s easy to continue selling those with the extra parts not installed
If you need repair equipment or parts, you’ll be able to buy them from California if your state doesn’t implement similar rules
Misleading headline: it has not yet passed. It passed both the house and senate, but has not been signed by Gavin Newsom.
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And so they’ll just make those “replaceable parts” fail after 6 months and make them super expensive to purchase.
They are going to take your money no matter what.
Meanwhile my 1951 tractor still runs strong. I’m a big right to repair guy (lord knows I’ve repaired that thing a million times) and I celebrate the victory, but these laws are a tiny step in our profit-driven, disposable world. Repairability and longevity need to be fundamental design considerations. We’ll never get there with ticky tack regulations on a world where modern tractor manufacturers go out of their way to install computers on their tractor specifically so you can’t repair it yourself.
Dad, I thought it was a 1954 International Harvester. Also, since when are you on Lemmy? ;)
Your dad sounds awesome. Is it the kind with a narrow front? Those 50s IH tractors are sweet, but most of the ones around here have the narrow fronts, and it’s so hilly that I’m mortified of them. Mine is a Ford 800. Absolute beast of a machine, and it’s older than my parents!
Tell your dad to join Lemmy so we can start an antique tractor community!
Turns out I was off by a decade. 1964 farmall 140. Front grill is white mesh that is bent in 90 degree vertical steps. Love that the grills are such an identifier. Very postwar almost brutalist modern. Not the deco modern of the 40s-50s models. EDIT: not narrow front, but I guess that’s a given for a 60’s model?
That thing sounds awesome dude. I bet your dad has tons of awesome memories on it, and tons more swearing at it. Upload a pic if you’ve got one!
All this is going to accomplish is severely limiting the number of devices available to the consumers.
Only a few brands and models will meet the standard to be able to be sold, creating a government backed monopoly and driving the prices of those devices through the roof, while simultaneously creating a black market for unapproved devices.
People will start shopping out of state for devices to be able to have any kind of choice and not have to pay $2k for their new phone.