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@Telodzrum@lemmy.world
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Is this an old tweet? This year alone $1.2 trillion was passed in spending on infrastructure at the federal level.

Eh sorry buddy on lemmy we hate the USA and love China. Also blame everything on capitalism, even - and especially - if it has nothing to do with it

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We need to do better but I’m pretty certain we are not being competitively challenged by China’s Hukou system & as for infrastructure and local government investing in crazy growth schemes it is pretty rampant in the US as well.

Most infrastructure is privatized in the US, with roads being a notable exception. Infrastructure investment doesn’t mean a lot when that investment is to a for-profit company in which their only means of profit is new infrastructure. The most expensive (and therefore profitable) type of infrastructure with the lowest maintenance cost use fossil fuels.

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If you can’t beat them with words, beat them with guns

We only have 2 major political parties, and one of them has decided science and learning are evil…and like half the country votes for them. We’re completely fucked.

Correction: half of the voters vote for them. If all the apathetic people started to vote, Republicans would be forced to adapt or would never win any election anymore.

That’s exactly why Republicans fight against early voting, Mail voting, absentee voting, etc. If you make it too easy to vote, the single mom working 2 jobs might actually be able to work vote, and they absolutely DO NOT want that.

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Correction: less than half of the voters vote for them, but because of the way the government is structured they still control half or more of the government and can take the presidency despite losing the popular vote and now control the Supreme Court forever.

We also have to consider how many people are salvagable but are voting for republicans as compromise candidates, much like how radicals tend to do with SHADOWLORD JOE BIDEN

Yeah a lot of single issue gun voters vote Republican despite agreeing with Democrats on almost everything else.

I have more than a couple friends where I this is probably the case, despite my endless bargaining, pleading, argumentation that they agree with, and my calls for them to simply engage in a little bit of [redacted] that realistically nobody will care about, in order to keep their guns, should some other, of many, idiotic gun laws come to pass. I dunno, it’s an insane issue. my hair is on end, and it’s been pulled out, at the same time.

@RaoulDook@lemmy.world
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Yep I would change my affiliation from Independent to Democrat if they would stop with the gun ban bullshit. I’m never going to vote for anyone who proposes to limit my freedom.

@Coreidan@lemmy.world
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half of the voters vote for them

Oh ya? Is that before or after gerrymandering?

You’re so right.

This is only a Republican problem.

So not a real democracy then

Last 20 years’ Turkey: First time?

That is clearly not true.

We also give massive tax breaks to corporations that then don’t do the things for which the breaks were given — e.g. Foxconn in WI. Build a chip plant? Nah we’re good.

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Reminder that the US Congress gave AT&T and Verizon BILLIONS of dollars to build out a national broadband network decades ago. They pocketed that money and didn’t lay a single meter foot of fiber with zero consequences.

Billions of taxpayer money gone to AT&T and Verizon? Sounds like their infrastructure should be seized and nationalized.

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Wait till you hear about how much money the US (and Canada) spent to bail out private railroads. The same railroads that are openly hostile to running nationalized passenger rail. Even being allowed to have passenger train wheels touch their tracks is like pulling teeth so we can forget about actual, functional intercity rail like they have in the developed world.

In a lot of cases I don’t think you’d want passenger cars on those rails…

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We have plenty of traffic on the Trans Canada Highway between cities that could be diverted away from car travel. Intercity bus service as well. The prairies is especially good for high speed rail because you can build perfectly straight tracks at ground level for long distances since it’s mostly farmland, and there are aready many straight trunk roads they can share corridor with, which could potentially start competing with planes if they go at the higher end speeds that already exist in the industry, and downtown to downtown. Bombardier even made high speed trains before we lost them. And certainly more environmentally friendly than planes and cars.

That’s so we can watch them spend trillions upgrading their infrastructure over decades only to bomb their shiny new infrastructure into oblivion whilst Ralph Wigginsing them (pointing our finger and going HA HAAA).

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Not only is that not the character, you spelled it wrong.

Also, what the fuck

China’s econ has fallen and is like @ 65% compared to the us economy which is doing just about the best of the G7 countries in unemployment and inflation

Probably because everyone is in it for short term gains and to gain something for themselves. If politicians actually cared about the advancement of the human race, (in any way), they’d join each other towards building common goals until no common goals are left.

I wanna stress, im not in any way supporting authoritarian regimes. But that is one of the very very few advantages of a 1 party system, that the people in charge actually look at the long term impacts, because they will still be in power in 10-20 years. So they cant just bleed the country dry and then hand their mess over to the other party at the next election and have them deal with all the problems you created.

Agreed. Lots of people in the US praised the chinese rapid response to covid and how it was able to staunch the spreads.

But like…they welded people’s door shut. They threatened normal citizens with bodily harm my guys. Being “good at covid” was a side effect of their one-party rule that we criticize every other year.

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Authoritarianism is highly effective at making things happen, it’s just really REALLY bad at human rights violations since anything that gets in the way of the state is an issue.

@TheLurker@lemmy.world
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Oh yeah, because China and Russia are not building up their military at all right?

I mean they are both super cuddly teddy bears not doing anything bad at all.

Omg the west is so bad! 🙄

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Lol, less than 10 minutes and the downvoted flood in, without any replies. Bot much ya fucking sad cunts. 🖕

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I think the point of the post is that the US is only trying to compete with military, not that China isn’t investing in it at all.

@TheLurker@lemmy.world
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I mean that is just objectively false. They are competing on multiple fronts.

The point is most of these threads are started by neck beard basement dwellers, smooching of their parents, complaining endlessly online about how shit their life is under capitalism.

Yet none of them seem willing to move to any of the “workers paradise” countries they constantly fawn over.

They are not socialist. They are lazy.

So you just assumed all that from this simple tweet? I could assume you just want to feel superior to them from these comments.

Not to mention “just move there” isn’t that easy of a solution for most people.

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Here in the US, the rail system is privately owned and barely maintained. Employees responsible for identifying problems with sections of rail are regularly intimidated and fired for pointing out maintenance issues that could (and do) cause derailments.

In perfect world, we would have high speed rail across the US and even regionally, but that is not the world we live in.

Isn’t it obvious? It’s because the US will act as the “world’s police” as a cover to steal countries’ oil, that’s how the US competes with China.

US Republican* politcians

Not sure why you’re getting down-voted:

https://www.npr.org/2021/11/15/1055841358/biden-signs-1t-bipartisan-infrastructure-bill-into-law

And

https://www.npr.org/2021/08/10/1026486578/senate-republican-votes-infrastructure-bill

In the Senate, 100% of Party A voted for it. Party B saw 38% of their members vote for it and 62% voted against it.

https://www.axios.com/2021/11/06/house-republicans-votes-infrastructure-biden

In the House, Party A saw nearly all their members vote to pass the bill with the opposers wanting a bigger investment in infrastructure than what was offered.

Party B saw 100s of their members vote against it while 19 voted for. Most of those opposed said it was not worth the cost. The bill could add 256 Billion to the deficit over 10 years (25.6 Billion per year). Note 25.6 Billion in a year would represent less than 3% of our annual deficit:

https://fiscaldata.treasury.gov/americas-finance-guide/national-deficit/

But yeah, Party A = Party B /s

FTA:

The bill includes:

$351 billion for highways and bridges

$107 billion for transit

$73 billion for electric grid infrastructure

$66 billion for passenger rail

$55 billion for drinking water infrastructure

$42 billion for broadband deployment

$25 billion for airports

$17 billion for ports

$7.5 billion for electric vehicle charging stations

$7.5 billion for electric buses and ferries

If they aren’t at the very least endorsed by the DSA, odds are that they’ll also participate in austerity bs.

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