From ebooks, to videos and software, the answer is increasingly no

Do you actually own anything digital?::From ebooks, to videos and software, the answer is increasingly no

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Aye, I be ownin’ it all, mateys!

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It depends on how you acquired it. Nobody can take the license for your pirated, modded fallout. Literally buy it anywhere but itch.io? You probably don’t.

You own most GOG games, too

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How is GOG? I haven’t used it and have heard noth sides. Owning it alone makes it worth looking at.

It’s pretty good they do a good job of keeping old games available in a decent state

@Synthead@lemmy.world
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I do.

Only if its still there and you can use it entirely when internet goes bye-bye forever

@grue@lemmy.world
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Yes, because I go out of my way to make damn sure of it.

Do you?

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Well, I have 10 Tb of pirated digital content sitting safely at my own home, so I would say yes, yes I do own a lot of digital stuff.

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They’re my bytes, and I’ll put them in whatever order I wish, thank you very much.

Right there with you buddy, 13TB and growing. Self hosted media servers are the best.

Those are rookie numbers. Need to start getting entire TV shows in 4k and things you’ve seen previously but may want to watch again in the future quickly and easily.

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Personally can’t justify many series in 4k, some of the ones I have only ever got SD releases (DVD at best) but there are a few I can justify 4K for. Mainly very cinematic shows such as The Mandelorian or The Last of Us. As long as they have subtitles in the other shows and are available in their best original release resolution it’s fine for me.

For example if the original Doctor Who series had a 4K release for it’s entirety it would probably be my entire server lol. 693 episodes in 480p is almost 300GB.

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Y’all are chumps.

I got 6TB SSD and 16TB HDD.

But I guess it’s less than half full so… Idk, maybe Im the chump with too much headroom.

Definitely not my car. And if I can help it, it’s going to stay that way.

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Can it be taken from you, at any time, for any reason or no reason at all?

If yes, then you don’t own it.

I mean, that technically applies to everything. The government can seize your land, the police are in the news every few days for straight up taking money out of people’s homes and vehicles and shooting dogs, robbery is still a living profession, etc

There’s really not a lot that sentence doesn’t apply to, if anything at all.

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I think you continued to make his point in a dark way.

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When it comes to the US government at least, there are 4th Amendment protections in place, so no, your property can’t be seized “for any reason or no reason at all”.

Theft is a thing, but it’s random and you have the right to defend yourself in your own home. You also aren’t at risk for losing EVERYTHING. Not in the way you are if your digital library license gets revoked.

If a cop can take your property with no consequences and you will be arrested or killed if you defend yourself and your property, then what the law says doesn’t matter as the defacto state of reality isn’t concerned with such petty things as laws.

You clearly don’t know about the state of seizure laws in the US over the last years. Having cash is reason enough for them to seize it and they don’t have to suspect you of a crime. They can simply find the cash as suspicious and take it and you have to prove the legality of your cash or property at your own cost/expense to get it back.

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You clearly don’t understand the status of civil forfeiture in my state, but it’s cool, we only changed it 23 years ago…

https://www.osbar.org/publications/bulletin/06nov/forfeiture.html

You said the Fourth Amendment, not your state law. The fourth amendment should protect from this but historically it hasn’t. One good state doesn’t change that.

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This comment is so fucking frustratingly ignorant of the realities of living in the US. Is this a troll comment?

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In MY state at least, it’s absolutely a fact but it does vary by state:

https://www.osbar.org/publications/bulletin/06nov/forfeiture.html

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Yes I own things because I simply don’t pay for something if I’d need to open proprietary software or pay a subscription fee to use it.

It’s really quite simple and remarkably easy to do, it’s just more mental load to decide what to buy and people just want to pay monthly and forget about it and get mad when it stops magically working.

@silentdon@lemmy.world
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No. Not unless you have it stored on media that you own and control.

Oui mes empreintes.

Resol van Lemmy
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La blague la plus drôle que j’ai lue aujourd’hui.

billwashere
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Je n’ai aucune idée de ce que vous dites.

In French digital means related to fingers. Empreinte digital means fingerprint.

What is funny is digital is sometimes used like in english by French companies, it can gives stuff like finger related jobs ( digital jobs).

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The only “digital” I download, is something that I can put on my personal storage. If I can download it to Nintendo Switch and then move it to USB or SD card, then I can clone the sd card and therefore I own it. (immediate usage might be different, and they may chose to delete if it is put back on the Switch. But I still own it, I just need to find an alternative method to use it).

Same goes with games/movies/whatever. If I can download it and store it on my NAS, I own it.

If you are paying for “digital” but you cannot acquire a copy of it, then it is NOT “Digital” it is streaming. You are paying for the privilege of using some services’ electronic library, but you do not own anything on it.

I’ve been watching this argument lately, and its amusing. The whole Sony thing about Discovery (or whatever it was) has nothing to do with ownership. You were paying to access a library that Sony curated. Sony dropped the contract with the other party, and chose to tidy their library. You just have access to it, because they let you. You do not have any ownership whatsoever, you signed a T&C that says Sony curates the library and they can do what they like.

People seem to have a hard time using words like “content”, “streaming” and “digital” vs “electronic copy”, “local digital copy” and “DLC”; and then confuse "ownership and “content access”.

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