for my main computer, sure, fine, whatever. I’ll sign into my Microsoft account, I don’t mind. but my Plex/Minecraft server… maaaaaaannnn come the fuck on. I guess my server can just stay windows 10 for the next 20 years 🤷🏻♂️
This is just for Home edition, yeah? Pretty sure Professional still allows you to create offline accounts without a Microsoft account before joining a domain.
Last time I tried it let me create a local account, then about a week later I got called because Windows threw a full-screen blocker on boot saying a Microsoft account was required to continue with “I’ll do it later” being greyed out. Oddly enough, ALT+F4 worked to close it and continue.
Brazenly forcing anti-consumer features like this is an obvious sign of monopoly and abuse of their dominating position on the market. They should have been broken up a long time ago along with all the other big tech companies who have been pulling this sort of crap.
I remember when it happened. Back then we were concerned about how Microsoft was pushing Internet Explorer as a browser on its platform. And then we just gave up on enforcing Antitrust laws let them do whatever they want along with the rest of big tech. Since then they’ve been doing so much worse than that.
So am i missing something (yes well definitely but still)? You need an online account to login to windows. So if im somewhere where there is no internet i just cant login to my w11 laptop? I cant use my laptop… wow. I havent touched windows in a long time but still. Thats gotta be nice for ppl that are always on the road for work. Damn.
I can say that in the case of enterprise windows setups, the system caches your login credentials if it can’t reach the domain controller, so that you can still log in even if you’re not on the corporate network. I imagine it does similar for windows accounts (but I never use one so I can’t say for sure).
Huh? What if you’re installing windows on a machine with no internet connection? Which is an entirely normal legitimate thing to do. It’s not a requirement after all.
I have a number of machines that use a local account, they don’t need a Microsoft account and will never be linked to one, it’s unnecessary.
I had to do exactly this for a family friend in his 70s, it was a fucking nightmare. I think ultimately I caved and hotspotted it to my phone just long enough for it to be happy, and disconnected it while it was still loading the sign up page so it fell back to local account creation (at the time I didn’t know about a@a or bypassnro)
For W10 you can still do offline installs with the media creation tool and telling it you dont have an internet connection, for W11 even enterprise users are all tied into autopilot, Intune MDM, and/or a microsoft account. I do not believe there is a method to install W11 without an internet connection and account. If there some some way to get the install tools to do that, I dont know what it is, and I do IT for a job…
Honestly, making the switch to linux full time is not that bad. Every tool, utility and program other than the most niche propriatary applications have a FOSS variant, and it is starting to sound like a bad relationship when people wait for MS to make a policy, change or product that isnt comedicly evil…
Just break up… If you need to talk at the hivemind of the internet for advice, we got ya.
I know some folks on the SysAdmin discord mentioned it wasn’t working for them anymore. It also stopped working for me about 2 months ago. (I work in IT and set to up new computers fairly often)
But looking online real quick, several sources including Tom’s Hardware claim it still works. So I’m not sure what’s going on with it. Maybe your milage may vary?
Funny thing is, I find myself forced to use the command prompt more in Windows than I do the terminal in Linux. And don’t get me started on the absolute nightmare that the windows registry is.
Time for Linux. I don’t like to change, I’ve used windows from 3.1. But I see no other option. They will pull the plug on 10 while at the same time are trying their best to make their shitty 11 even worse.
Wow… it’s like Microsoft really does want to lose customers. Welp… I guess I have to find a linux distro as my main driver. Ubuntu seems so damn user friendly and “mainstream” I might just stick to that. I’d play around with ArchLinux or Fedora, but fkin lol at a noob trying to setup either one through terminal/commands.
If Ubuntu works for you then by all means use it, but if you’re a computer guy already installing Arch the long way isn’t that hard and they even have an install script now.
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Ive had microsloth blocked for 3 years so they can jam all the jumpers they want
Does Rufus installer still give the option to bypass all this BS when flashing a windows ISO to a USB?
not yet, maybe they’ll add it?
for my main computer, sure, fine, whatever. I’ll sign into my Microsoft account, I don’t mind. but my Plex/Minecraft server… maaaaaaannnn come the fuck on. I guess my server can just stay windows 10 for the next 20 years 🤷🏻♂️
If all you’re doing is plex and a minecraft server, look into proxmox or unraid.
Unraid is paid but very noob friendly compared to most others. It’s also very flexible hardware wise.
I’ve heard great things about Free NAS. would unraid be similar to that?
They share similarities for sure. I’ve not used it though. I know unraid offers a 30 day testing license. Not sure about the others.
The Kingdom of Torvalds becomes more and more attractive for Windows refugees every day.
Well there’s some dude out there that recompiled windows 11 with some shitty laptop, cigarettes in his hand, & some beer into useful windows & lighter
So glad I’m a Linux user…
Fuck you, MS, for making people create an account to use something they paid for.
So stick it to them, stop giving them money and data.
This is just for Home edition, yeah? Pretty sure Professional still allows you to create offline accounts without a Microsoft account before joining a domain.
Last time I tried it let me create a local account, then about a week later I got called because Windows threw a full-screen blocker on boot saying a Microsoft account was required to continue with “I’ll do it later” being greyed out. Oddly enough, ALT+F4 worked to close it and continue.
Brazenly forcing anti-consumer features like this is an obvious sign of monopoly and abuse of their dominating position on the market. They should have been broken up a long time ago along with all the other big tech companies who have been pulling this sort of crap.
They were convicted of being a monopoly over 20 years ago.
I remember when it happened. Back then we were concerned about how Microsoft was pushing Internet Explorer as a browser on its platform. And then we just gave up on enforcing Antitrust laws let them do whatever they want along with the rest of big tech. Since then they’ve been doing so much worse than that.
You can blame lobbying for that.
No we didn’t.
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So am i missing something (yes well definitely but still)? You need an online account to login to windows. So if im somewhere where there is no internet i just cant login to my w11 laptop? I cant use my laptop… wow. I havent touched windows in a long time but still. Thats gotta be nice for ppl that are always on the road for work. Damn.
I can say that in the case of enterprise windows setups, the system caches your login credentials if it can’t reach the domain controller, so that you can still log in even if you’re not on the corporate network. I imagine it does similar for windows accounts (but I never use one so I can’t say for sure).
This is about the setup process
Huh? What if you’re installing windows on a machine with no internet connection? Which is an entirely normal legitimate thing to do. It’s not a requirement after all.
I have a number of machines that use a local account, they don’t need a Microsoft account and will never be linked to one, it’s unnecessary.
I had to do exactly this for a family friend in his 70s, it was a fucking nightmare. I think ultimately I caved and hotspotted it to my phone just long enough for it to be happy, and disconnected it while it was still loading the sign up page so it fell back to local account creation (at the time I didn’t know about a@a or bypassnro)
There’s this workaround that works well : https://www.tomshardware.com/how-to/install-windows-11-without-microsoft-account
It’s definitely not for lambda users and a real pity that we have to resort to this, but it does the job (for now).
For W10 you can still do offline installs with the media creation tool and telling it you dont have an internet connection, for W11 even enterprise users are all tied into autopilot, Intune MDM, and/or a microsoft account. I do not believe there is a method to install W11 without an internet connection and account. If there some some way to get the install tools to do that, I dont know what it is, and I do IT for a job…
Honestly, making the switch to linux full time is not that bad. Every tool, utility and program other than the most niche propriatary applications have a FOSS variant, and it is starting to sound like a bad relationship when people wait for MS to make a policy, change or product that isnt comedicly evil…
Just break up… If you need to talk at the hivemind of the internet for advice, we got ya.
Don’t connect to the internet.
Open a cmd window with F10 (maybe it’s shift-F10?) and type the following:
OOBE\\BYPASSNROYou can thank me later.
I’m pretty sure they have removed this recently.
I used it to set up a company laptop less than a month ago.
Do you have a source? First time I’m hearing about it
I know some folks on the SysAdmin discord mentioned it wasn’t working for them anymore. It also stopped working for me about 2 months ago. (I work in IT and set to up new computers fairly often)
But looking online real quick, several sources including Tom’s Hardware claim it still works. So I’m not sure what’s going on with it. Maybe your milage may vary?
I definitely used it 2 months ago, maybe it changed since then, or maybe it depends on something.
Guck you. I’ll thank you NOW.
I thought we couldn’t use Linux because people don’t want to use a command prompt.
Funny thing is, I find myself forced to use the command prompt more in Windows than I do the terminal in Linux. And don’t get me started on the absolute nightmare that the windows registry is.
Congrats in building stalking software right into the OS.
A bunch of abusive relationships about to get a whole lot worse when the other party can track literally everything they do.
Time for Linux. I don’t like to change, I’ve used windows from 3.1. But I see no other option. They will pull the plug on 10 while at the same time are trying their best to make their shitty 11 even worse.
Wow… it’s like Microsoft really does want to lose customers. Welp… I guess I have to find a linux distro as my main driver. Ubuntu seems so damn user friendly and “mainstream” I might just stick to that. I’d play around with ArchLinux or Fedora, but fkin lol at a noob trying to setup either one through terminal/commands.
You set up Fedora desktop distros with a GUI installer.
If Ubuntu works for you then by all means use it, but if you’re a computer guy already installing Arch the long way isn’t that hard and they even have an install script now.
Oh nice! I think it was around 2018 when I attempted to install Arch. I’ll check it out again sometime this week.