The events of this story are bad yes, but I think it’s important to point out that the ‘$33k’ figure is using AUD, otherwise known as the weakest dollar. That’s a bit under US$21k. Still bad, but obviously not nearly as much.
Didn’t they have already issues with water on the Model 3 bumper? Still remembering seeing my first Tesla Model S… Worst bodypanel gaps I’ve ever seen on a new car
I think it’s important to mention that this isn’t an issue EVs have but an issue Teslas in particular have. They seem to have a really bad build quality from what I hear.
Just in case anyone thinks this is a problem with all electric cars…
I own a Chevy Bolt. It lives in the driveway, as my house doesn’t have a garage. And I live in a city that gets Scotland levels of rainfall. It’s not uncommon for a heavy downpour to leave some low-lying streets with an inch or more of water on them in some places, and that’s perfectly normal here.
My Bolt does just fine in that. I never even considered the idea that I might need to take extra precautions with it because fucking rain might kill its battery.
Southern California may be mostly dry, but has had several storms this year with inches of rain each. So even the"home" of Tesla needs to take that sort of weather into account.
Just in case anyone thinks this is a problem with Teslas, I have driven mine through several dozen heavy rainstorms and even a hurricane and my Tesla does just fine in that.
And as everyone knows, science is comprised of my personal experience.
I don’t think anyone thinks this is a universal problem with Teslas. It’s just a possible case of quality control failure. That said, quality control has been a problem lately.
Quality control is a problem with every product. Once you reach a certain point it just makes more financial sense to fix any issues when they’re discovered and reported by the consumer rather than going over it with a microscope. Most consumers don’t care about panel gaps.
Until someone completes and publishes a scientific study on the matter, and compares them to other OEMs, I’ll continue to assume that these are just anecdotes from click-hungry publications that know anything to do with Tesla or Elon drives clicks, because everyone I know and every Tesla I’ve seen (with the exception of S/X) is totally fine.
Best car I’ve owned, without a doubt. I charge it overnight, and never have to even think about range (it’ll do 300 miles in good conditions if driven carefully). Keeping it charged costs a few dollars a month most of the time, unless I’m on a road trip and need to pay for charging on the way - which is still far, far cheaper than paying for gas.
The only downside is that road trips require more planning, because you need to know where you’re going to stop for a charge beforehand, and you need to plan out the time it’ll take to get a decent charge. But that just means making sure you’re going to have lunch or take a break to stretch your legs and walk around where you’ll be charging. Long-distance trips are definitely doable, you just plan them around charging locations.
And it’s impossible to beat the maintenance costs: Nearly $0. Very few moving parts and an electric motor means no oil changes, engine maintenance, and general wear-and-tear are much lower.
Maintenance is something I’ve been thinking about a lot, thanks for mentioning it. I know it’s supposed to be a lot cheaper than other cars but at the same time I’m curious what maintenance looks like 10+ years out, in other words older than probably most of the bolts out there. I appreciate the comment though!
I have no sympathy at this point for anyone buying one of these pieces of garbage from a company led by a person who quite obviously a flaming piece of garbage, producing products that are quite obviously flaming pieces of garbage.
I mean, there are so many alternatives now, you really have to ignore how horrible Musk is to buy one of these, and you have to have your head stuck in the ground for a couple of years now to not know that Tesla quality control is diaper poo.
Water got into the battery. Well that sounds like it is squarely a fault of Tesla and its QC or R&D. Who tf builds a car, with a battery, doesn’t make sure that the battery and all other major components are IP68 rated for “full immersion up to a meter or more for 30 minutes” ?
Its a CAR. We have Fords to cross. And some RAIN fscked it up??!!
It wouldn’t be able to function as an electric car at all without a battery. Think of the battery as the EV version of the gas tank. It has to have somewhere to store its energy.
“They said it’s not necessarily my fault but it’s not Tesla’s to pay under warranty.”
If it’s not a warranty case and not a misuse case that means it’s designed and it’s supposed to function like that.
Imagine an “automotive” grade battery pack with a lower IP rating that the car itself :))))
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The events of this story are bad yes, but I think it’s important to point out that the ‘$33k’ figure is using AUD, otherwise known as the weakest dollar. That’s a bit under US$21k. Still bad, but obviously not nearly as much.
Didn’t they have already issues with water on the Model 3 bumper? Still remembering seeing my first Tesla Model S… Worst bodypanel gaps I’ve ever seen on a new car
I think it’s important to mention that this isn’t an issue EVs have but an issue Teslas in particular have. They seem to have a really bad build quality from what I hear.
I suppose you have evidence of this “issue” with Teslas?
The article this entire post is about…
This post is about a single vehicle that was most likely driven in deep water, but even if it wasn’t, is not indicative of an “issue Teslas have”.
Just in case anyone thinks this is a problem with all electric cars…
I own a Chevy Bolt. It lives in the driveway, as my house doesn’t have a garage. And I live in a city that gets Scotland levels of rainfall. It’s not uncommon for a heavy downpour to leave some low-lying streets with an inch or more of water on them in some places, and that’s perfectly normal here.
My Bolt does just fine in that. I never even considered the idea that I might need to take extra precautions with it because fucking rain might kill its battery.
This wasn’t everyday “Scotland levels of rainfalls” though, it was a specific storm that posed a risk to life in many areas.
That said I still would expect my car to endure anything short of being submerged underwater.
Southern California may be mostly dry, but has had several storms this year with inches of rain each. So even the"home" of Tesla needs to take that sort of weather into account.
It’s
(so far) in this case, so pretty exceptional and more than a few inches.
Regardless, my point was that this isn’t just “another rainy day in Scotland”. The circumstances are exceptional even for stormy weather.
Wow!
Just in case anyone thinks this is a problem with Teslas, I have driven mine through several dozen heavy rainstorms and even a hurricane and my Tesla does just fine in that.
And as everyone knows, science is comprised of my personal experience.
I don’t think anyone thinks this is a universal problem with Teslas. It’s just a possible case of quality control failure. That said, quality control has been a problem lately.
Quality control is a problem with every product. Once you reach a certain point it just makes more financial sense to fix any issues when they’re discovered and reported by the consumer rather than going over it with a microscope. Most consumers don’t care about panel gaps.
Until someone completes and publishes a scientific study on the matter, and compares them to other OEMs, I’ll continue to assume that these are just anecdotes from click-hungry publications that know anything to do with Tesla or Elon drives clicks, because everyone I know and every Tesla I’ve seen (with the exception of S/X) is totally fine.
The problem is, Tesla’s “ignore it till people complain” baseline is lower than most other mfgs.
How many references would you like? https://www.cnbc.com/2020/06/24/tesla-lags-auto-industry-in-quality-finds-new-jd-power-study.html https://www.greencarreports.com/news/1128625_tesla-ranks-last-in-initial-quality-build-issues https://www.cnn.com/2021/02/03/business/elon-musk-tesla-quality-problems/index.html
I’ve been hearing of quality control problems when it comes to everything Tesla for years. This hardly seems like a recent thing.
How do you like your bolt? I’ve been thinking about getting one or maybe an equinox when that comes out
Best car I’ve owned, without a doubt. I charge it overnight, and never have to even think about range (it’ll do 300 miles in good conditions if driven carefully). Keeping it charged costs a few dollars a month most of the time, unless I’m on a road trip and need to pay for charging on the way - which is still far, far cheaper than paying for gas.
The only downside is that road trips require more planning, because you need to know where you’re going to stop for a charge beforehand, and you need to plan out the time it’ll take to get a decent charge. But that just means making sure you’re going to have lunch or take a break to stretch your legs and walk around where you’ll be charging. Long-distance trips are definitely doable, you just plan them around charging locations.
And it’s impossible to beat the maintenance costs: Nearly $0. Very few moving parts and an electric motor means no oil changes, engine maintenance, and general wear-and-tear are much lower.
It’s a great car.
Maintenance is something I’ve been thinking about a lot, thanks for mentioning it. I know it’s supposed to be a lot cheaper than other cars but at the same time I’m curious what maintenance looks like 10+ years out, in other words older than probably most of the bolts out there. I appreciate the comment though!
I have no sympathy at this point for anyone buying one of these pieces of garbage from a company led by a person who quite obviously a flaming piece of garbage, producing products that are quite obviously flaming pieces of garbage.
I mean, there are so many alternatives now, you really have to ignore how horrible Musk is to buy one of these, and you have to have your head stuck in the ground for a couple of years now to not know that Tesla quality control is diaper poo.
Water got into the battery. Well that sounds like it is squarely a fault of Tesla and its QC or R&D. Who tf builds a car, with a battery, doesn’t make sure that the battery and all other major components are IP68 rated for “full immersion up to a meter or more for 30 minutes” ?
Its a CAR. We have Fords to cross. And some RAIN fscked it up??!!
It didn’t get fucked up by rain. They drove it on heavily flooded roads, according to Scots from the area.
Myself and about 3 million other Tesla owners can attest that they are not perturbed by rain.
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do hybrids have a battery? I’m obviously not talking about the standard lead acid 12volt DC battery
the reason I’m asking, hybrids have been selling really good or so I’ve been told
Yes, that’s what hybrids are, a hybrid between an electric and combustion engine car, I.e. they have both.
It wouldn’t be able to function as an electric car at all without a battery. Think of the battery as the EV version of the gas tank. It has to have somewhere to store its energy.
I always hear bad things from Tesla owners after the honeymoon phase is over.
Am owner of 3-year-old model X. Can confirm. Build quality is shit, and service experience is worse. Will never buy another Tesla.
One of the most important things when buying a used EV is checking the base of the car for any punctures. One could happen due a plethora of reasons.
Combine a puncture with driving in heavy rain/puddles and water damage may occur.
I hate Musk and wouldn’t buy Tesla ever, but this isn’t necessarily just because of the shoddy quality control they have.
“They said it’s not necessarily my fault but it’s not Tesla’s to pay under warranty.”
If it’s not a warranty case and not a misuse case that means it’s designed and it’s supposed to function like that. Imagine an “automotive” grade battery pack with a lower IP rating that the car itself :))))