Microsoft insisted that Internet Explorer (IE) was not a product but a feature that it was allowed to add to Windows, although the DOJ did not agree with this definition.[6]
The government alleged that Microsoft had abused monopoly power on Intel-based personal computers in its handling of operating system and web browser integration.
Under the commitments approved by the Commission, Microsoft will make available for five years in the European Economic Area (through the Windows Update mechanism) a “Choice Screen” enabling users of Windows XP, Windows Vista and Windows 7 to choose which web browser(s) they want to install in addition to, or instead of, Microsoft’s browser Internet Explorer.
Here’s the summary for the wikipedia article you mentioned in your comment:
Fear, uncertainty and doubt (often shortened to FUD) is a manipulative propaganda tactic used in sales, marketing, public relations, politics, polling and cults. FUD is generally a strategy to influence perception by disseminating negative and dubious or false information, and is a manifestation of the appeal to fear.
Apple forcing WebKit on its mobile devices is one of the few things stopping Chrome’s dominance on web standards. It controls the majority of the market. As well as most browsers that aren’t chrome are using chrome’s web engine such as Edge, brave, vilvaldi, opera, kiwi, Samsung web browser, electron etc.
This move is good for Firefox, and good for making web technologies more accessible.
However, it makes it easier for Google to force their vision for the future of the web. Now Google can push it’s browser on to iOS users as a solution to web pages not rendering correctly in WebKit. Rather than being forced to adopt and implement common web standards that safari and Firefox also follow.
The best solution would be forcing all significant platforms to allow alternative browser engines (include iPads) and start to consider punishing websites that don’t fully support all major browser engines. Such as safari, chrome and Firefox.
Yeah, this is part of the big issue with chrome being internet explorer for this generation.
Chrome forking WebKit has the dog wagging the tail. Apple need to follow chrome’s web ‘standards’, else they break compatibility. As well as the billions Google give Apple every year, no doubts influences their implementation of safari.
But this change means Chrome can stray further from WebKit and use this change to get people using chrome on apple devices.
The best thing for the future of the web is to use Firefox and boycott websites that don’t support it. If another new browser technology comes about that too would be worth supporting.
For me, iOS works substantially better at my employer. At the end of the day, it’s better for some enterprise integration. I wish it was different, but this is probably true for many. EDIT: I’d choose Android if my employer supported it enough to do my job effectively. :(
I’m all for this change, but hopefully it means Mozilla will put some more energy into Gecko to make it competitive with WebKit in speed and multimedia capability (P3 colors, HDR images, JPEG-XL, etc)
That way Firefox has to submit a different app for Europe, splitting its userbase and making it more complicated for developers. They are pulling every trick they can…
Same. Overall, I’m happy with my iPhone, but not having an actual browser with an actual ad blocker (uBlock Origins) is really painful. I’ve had to live with ProtonVPN’s ad blocking, but that only prevents sites from loading, it doesn’t hide the actual ad links…
This only in the EU thing is going to bite them in the ass hard. You’re going to get App developers pretending to operate in the EU or moving there just to have more creative freedom.
Users will also find ways of doing the exact same. You can’t have one rule for one group of people and different rules for everyone else.
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I can see those stupid Americans buying eu phone variants for a premium price from scalpers. 😅
That seems unnecessarily rude
A VPN might manage this. It could be a location based implementation.
Thinking about it your probably right, a sales based location is easier for apple to restrict and simpler to implement.
What has the EU ever done for us?
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fear,_uncertainty,_and_doubt
I thought you meant this:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_v._Microsoft_Corp.
Also in the EU:
https://ec.europa.eu/commission/presscorner/detail/en/IP_09_1941
Here’s the summary for the wikipedia article you mentioned in your comment:
United States of America v. Microsoft Corporation, 253 F. 3d 34 (D. C. Cir.
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Fear, uncertainty and doubt (often shortened to FUD) is a manipulative propaganda tactic used in sales, marketing, public relations, politics, polling and cults. FUD is generally a strategy to influence perception by disseminating negative and dubious or false information, and is a manifestation of the appeal to fear.
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Everyone should just move to the EU at this rate
Or EU move to everyone. I wouldn’t mind, EU is much better than bunker rat.
Maybe declare war on the EU and then surrender?
Apple forcing WebKit on its mobile devices is one of the few things stopping Chrome’s dominance on web standards. It controls the majority of the market. As well as most browsers that aren’t chrome are using chrome’s web engine such as Edge, brave, vilvaldi, opera, kiwi, Samsung web browser, electron etc.
This move is good for Firefox, and good for making web technologies more accessible.
However, it makes it easier for Google to force their vision for the future of the web. Now Google can push it’s browser on to iOS users as a solution to web pages not rendering correctly in WebKit. Rather than being forced to adopt and implement common web standards that safari and Firefox also follow.
The best solution would be forcing all significant platforms to allow alternative browser engines (include iPads) and start to consider punishing websites that don’t fully support all major browser engines. Such as safari, chrome and Firefox.
WebKit is chromium basically. Or chromium is webkit. You get the idea.
If crapple wasn’t so anti-consumer, EU wouldn’t create law in first place.
Yeah, this is part of the big issue with chrome being internet explorer for this generation.
Chrome forking WebKit has the dog wagging the tail. Apple need to follow chrome’s web ‘standards’, else they break compatibility. As well as the billions Google give Apple every year, no doubts influences their implementation of safari.
But this change means Chrome can stray further from WebKit and use this change to get people using chrome on apple devices.
The best thing for the future of the web is to use Firefox and boycott websites that don’t support it. If another new browser technology comes about that too would be worth supporting.
It perplexes me that people choose to use a platform which won’t let even let them choose how a browser works.
For me, iOS works substantially better at my employer. At the end of the day, it’s better for some enterprise integration. I wish it was different, but this is probably true for many. EDIT: I’d choose Android if my employer supported it enough to do my job effectively. :(
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Lol, I have a Tesla and enjoy Google and all(most) of the their products. Lemmy is unhinged about these things.
I’m all for this change, but hopefully it means Mozilla will put some more energy into Gecko to make it competitive with WebKit in speed and multimedia capability (P3 colors, HDR images, JPEG-XL, etc)
The only way Apple can make good changes is if the EU forces them to make good changes.
That way Firefox has to submit a different app for Europe, splitting its userbase and making it more complicated for developers. They are pulling every trick they can…
If this was worldwide it would be the same amount QA work. The new rendering engine is the only thing worth paying attention to.
Almost no one is going to spend time QAing non-European Firefox. Outside of Europe it is basically just a glorified Safari WebView.
I’m crossing my fingers that there’s a way around this in non EU regions. Maybe there’ll be a simple exploit.
Have you considered moving to an EU member state? 😉
I got so excited for the headline until I saw the parentheses 😭
Same. Overall, I’m happy with my iPhone, but not having an actual browser with an actual ad blocker (uBlock Origins) is really painful. I’ve had to live with ProtonVPN’s ad blocking, but that only prevents sites from loading, it doesn’t hide the actual ad links…
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Please let this come to the US. Safari (WebKit) is so far behind.
Apple is kicked and shoved into doing something slightly less restrictive (in EU) (because only EU has common sense and is not corrupt, apparently)
nah, they are just slightly less corrupt. And they like to mess with American megacorps too.
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Wow, amazing news (as an EU citizen). Will definitely check out the “proper” Ff once it’s out
The fact chromium based browser are going to be allowed as well makes me nervous.
This only in the EU thing is going to bite them in the ass hard. You’re going to get App developers pretending to operate in the EU or moving there just to have more creative freedom.
Users will also find ways of doing the exact same. You can’t have one rule for one group of people and different rules for everyone else.