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I’m literally buying new smart plugs today because the manufacturer discontinued the firmware. They’re still in perfect condition, and the exact same set up that I’ve always had. It’s extremely frustrating.

If you want a smart home/devices, only opt for locally controlled, non-cloud, open source, and self hosted options. Home Assistant is great for home automation.

My mini splits used to be controlled by an Alexa dongle with no other choice from the manufacturer. After some research, I discovered that there was an ESPHome module for controlling them with about $8 worth of stuff. It’s more responsive, reliable, will never stop working because some company decided it’s no longer worth their time, and has more elaborate controls than anything the manufacturer provided. And I can control three mini splits for half of the cost of one “cloud dongle” from the manufacturer.

The best way to combat enshittification is voting with your wallet. Support projects by people who produce open source solutions. Donate the money you would have spent on the “turnkey cloud” option to help fund the open source project through donations. Until we stop giving these companies money, they’re not going to stop screwing us.

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Every shitty thing any company does has a bunch of clueless consumers paying them to do it.

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The best way to combat enshittification is voting with your wallet

Which is why enshittification will only to enshittify.

Cause while there may be rare individuals like you and me who cause ourself stress and headache by trying to find work arounds to avoid certain companies and practices… The overwhelming majority of people just don’t care, even if they get absolutely properly fucked over by a company or product. They’ll bitch and moan about it, maybe even curse its name… But they will eventually go crawling back, to that same company or another one who does the exact same thing, because the average person would lose their mind if they had to deal with even the most mildest of inconvenience in their everyday life, even if that inconvenience is something as small as learning a different product.

at least thats been my personal experience dealing with consumers over the past 20+ years.

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Unfortunately, you’re very right. I try to do my part in convincing people to choose otherwise, though.

and they act like they listen, then a month later they bought a new PoS from the same company and you just rip your hair out.

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How do you get started with home assistant in a reasonable way? I’ve been wanting to make that conversion, but it seems like such a huge project or undertaking just to get it first set up.

Do you have a Raspberry Pi, Mini PC, or media center PC that you already have running? Home Assistant sells a ready-made Home Assistant box (Home Assistant Green) if you don’t. It has HASS pre-installed ready to go.

@eronth@lemmy.world
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I do have an Raspberry Pi that’s running my foundry server, but a pre installed Device sounds promising.

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When it comes to streaming devices, nothing beats Apple TV in my opinion.

Outside the Apple TV app itself, the OS has very little ads. The only thing I dislike about it is the lack of Kodi + Google Drive plug in, but Infuse Pro works.

@hohoho@lemmy.world
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Jellyfin + Swiftfin have been quite solid in my experience when streaming to an Apple TV.

@jose1324@lemmy.world
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Shield is superior

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From a media perspective, I am inclined to agree; however, like the article said, the experiences of these devices are getting worse for seemingly no reason. Personally, I’m inclined to believe NVIDIA may not make another device like the shield because of the focus on AI and chips. I’d imagine these devices make little profit compared to all the money being made with the current focus on AI.

I don’t really like the lock downed experience of Apple’s ecosystem, but the software updates make these devices, particular the Apple TV, better every year.

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Use ZigBee, Zwave and Matter

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This person prioritized buying the new hotness over researching longevity, and they got burned.

Amazon and Google’s products are not where I would invest my money if I was concerned about long term support. Both of those companies have a solid track record of killing stuff off.

Buy that stuff if you want, but don’t be surprised if something gets killed off in 3-5 years.

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Never buy a (non computing) device for your home that depends on the internet, and especially a cloud service. You will inevitably get burned. There are countless articles online about these pitfalls.

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Never buy a (non computing) device for your home that depends on the internet

In addition to what is mentioned. There is the fun ability for your non-computing, internet connected device to have a security hole go unpatched. Your stove or lightbulb is now an infection vector on your network. Don’t do this to yourself.

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If you need a cache cleaner and other third party maintenance software constantly available on your video streaming box to make it nice to use… maybe you should have abandoned that platform years ago.

But the article is otherwise correct, the enshitification of platforms with ads and the removal of enthusiast features does suck.

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I disagree. I bought a smart light bulb a few years ago and it has been a fantastic investment!

Uses way less power than a normal incandescent bulb, lasts waaayyyyyy longer, has lots of different colours and white colour temperatures, has schedules that it runs through every day based on sunrise and sunset… I never have to turn it on or off or adjust it!

It’s fantastic, I bloody love it. LIFX.

One of the best investments I’ve made this decade, absolutely.

Oh and don’t forget LIFX bulbs don’t require any hubs, and there’s a python library available to do local LAN API stuff, no need to speak to a remote server if that’s not your jam.

@Seaguy05@lemmy.world
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I totally agree with this, Lifx is my favorite brand. Remote access to turn on lights and adjust, themes seasonally, hub less, buuuttt not the cheapest but fair pricing. Their app always tries to get me to buy new items.

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Some smart devices.

The $20-30 cheap garbage is exactly what it is: cheap garbage.

Apple charges a premium for their streaming box, but guess what: the 4K AppleTV they released in 2017 is still going strong. I’ve had this thing for seven years, it shows no ads on the main screen, and still gets updates. And it’s still fast as hell.

Maybe the enshittification is just on all these Android streamers? I have a Chromecast with GoogleTV in my bedroom, and it’s fine. But it’s just about two years old and already sluggish (especially compared to the AppleTV), and every time I turn it on it takes longer than it should to update the Home Screen with trash I don’t care about.

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My thoughts exactly. Apple is literally still providing new functionality to 10 year old AppleTV HD boxes, and they’re still performant.

If you’re concerned about longevity, you kind of need to purchase with that in mind.

IMHO, I have no problem with the hardware the author purchased, but I can’t say that I’m surprised to hear that long term support is an issue for Amazon, Google, and android TV stuff.

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These threads always have comments like “I want a fast device that’s well built and has years of software update support and doesn’t have ads and respects my privacy…but I’m not an Apple customer”.

I mean, fine, fuck Apple. But stop buying the cheap alternatives and complaining about them.

@darganon@lemmy.world
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Projectivy Launcher works great. Set it as default on your Chromecast and never see the main UI again!

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Smart tech is good when it is limited. Soon as something must be connected to wifi to be accessible, It can become a chore. Read reviews and try to find good trustworthy products.

TLDR, enshittification is getting worse and unless there’s some laws passed to help consumers it’s only going to plunge us into the dystopian future we’re already fearing.

It all went downhill when they decided that companies could just tell you to waive your rights without any scrutiny or negotiation.

I don’t buy things because they are investments. I buy things because I believe they will bring me joy in some way.

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They aren’t talking about an investment for a financial return. They’re talking about investing their time and energy in a platform that then gets enshittified

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My recommendation is to buy an RPi, SD card, and Mater devices as much as possible.

Voice is possible on Home Assistant and it will only get better. The devs, like many of us, prefer privacy and local control/storage.

There’s a way, it’s just not the path the author chose. The better path has only come about in the last year or so, tho.

Fwiw: you can tie the voice stuff into OpenAI and ask questions. It’s no longer local and each query costa fraction of a cent… But if you feel like you need that, it’s there.

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